Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion
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Q1: I don't like this page's name. I want to rename it to Articles for discussion or something else.
A1: Please see Wikipedia:Perennial proposals#Rename AFD. Note that all of the "for discussion" pages handle not only deletion, but also proposed mergers, proposed moves, and other similar processes. AFD is "for deletion" because the volume of discussion has made it necessary to sub-divide the work by the type of change. Q2: You mean I'm not supposed to use AFD to propose a merger or a page move?
A2: Correct. Please use Wikipedia:Proposed mergers or Wikipedia:Requested moves for those kinds of proposals. Q3: How many articles get nominated at AfD?
A3: Per the Oracle of Deletion, there were about 470,000 AfDs between 2005 (when the process was first created) and 2022. This comes out to about 26,000 per year (2,176 per month / 72 per day). In 2022, there were 20,008 AfDs (1,667 per month / 55 per day). Q4: How many articles get deleted?
A4: Between 2005 and 2020, around 60% of AfDs were closed as "delete" or "speedy delete". This is about 270,000. More detailed statistics (including year-by-year graphs) can be found at Wikipedia:Oracle/All and Wikipedia:Wikipedia records#Deletion. Q5: Is the timeline strict, with exactly 168 hours and zero minutes allowed? Should I remove late comments?
A5: No. We're trying to get the right outcome, not follow some ceremonial process. If the discussion hasn't been closed, it's okay for people to continue discussing it. Q6: How many people participate in AFD?
A6: As of October 2023, of the 13.9 million registered editors who have ever made 1+ edit anywhere, about 162,000 of them (1 in 85 editors) have also made 1+ edit to an AFD page. Most of the participants are experienced editors, but newcomers and unregistered editors also participate. Most individual AFD pages get comments from just a few editors, but the numbers add up over time. |
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About deleted articles
There are three processes under which mainspace articles are deleted: 1) speedy deletion; 2) proposed deletion (prod) and 3) Articles for deletion (AfD). For more information, see WP:Why was my page deleted? To find out why the particular article you posted was deleted, go to the deletion log and type into the search field marked "title," the exact name of the article, mindful of the original capitalization, spelling and spacing. The deletion log entry will show when the article was deleted, by which administrator, and typically contain a deletion summary listing the reason for deletion. If you wish to contest this deletion, please contact the administrator first on their talk page and, depending on the circumstances, politely explain why you think the article should be restored, or why a copy should be provided to you so you can address the reason for deletion before reposting the article. If this is not fruitful, you have the option of listing the article at WP:Deletion review, but it will probably only be restored if the deletion was clearly improper. List discussions WP:Articles for deletion WP:Categories for discussion WP:Copyright problems WP:Deletion review WP:Miscellany for deletion WP:Redirects for discussion WP:Stub types for deletion WP:Templates for discussion WP:WikiProject Deletion sorting WT:Articles for deletion WT:Categories for discussion WT:Copyright problems WT:Deletion review WT:Miscellany for deletion WT:Redirects for discussion WT:Stub types for deletion WT:Templates for discussion WT:WikiProject Deletion sorting |
Hello, I hope this is the right place to ask. The page for Articles for Deletion said to write something here if one is unsure about Deletion. The following living biography article I came across some time ago Charles Read (historian), originally included a large number of uncited claims (before my edits resulting in the current version) that I believe did not conform with Wikipedia's best practices. These were claims such as that the subject's thesis received the most academic awards ever from learned bodies of his generation, that he predicted various economic collapses or issues, and other spurious claims mostly referenced from the subject's own bios and statements he has made. The article also listed minor academic (college) prizes in the biography box, and made lots of "best X, first ever X, youngest X" claims that essentially read like a CV/personal statement.
Looking into the original user who created the article, that user only edited articles that were related to organisations that the subject of the article is part of, as well as the very specific academic field of the article's subject. I am fairly convinced (though of course impossible to prove) that the author of the article is the subject themselves.
I made a host of changes, each one annotated both in the history and talk pages, to try and make the article more neutral. I extensively set out reasoning for each edit there and in the "Talk" page. Earlier this month another user has reverted these changes to the original page with the spurious claims - without engaging in dialogue - simply claiming "vandalism". Possibly again the subject themselves.
The subject appears to be a (well-respected I'm sure) young academic with two books, who had a twitter post that received 1400 shares and which was mentioned in the Guardian. A human interest journalist at a local newspaper (20K circulation, which so far has not been seen as notable enough to merit its own wiki page) also wrote a piece in which he said the subject claims to be Cambridge's avatar economist of the 21st century, which was of course also proudly displayed on the original Wiki page as fact, without clearly stating the nature of the source. Next to that, the twitter post seems to be the main argument for relevance and featuring on Wikipedia. I am myself not sure if that merits to have a biography on Wikipedia, but also don't want to biased against the subject simply because he himself appears to have written the article, so wanted to check here if I should schedule the article for deletion. One thing I am certain, however, is that if not monitored this Wikipedia page will be continuously edited to restore the original grandiose claims.
I'm open to any suggestions (and hope this is the right place to post).
Et in Arcadia 1 (talk) 20:08, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure you're right, I see no reason to think that Charles Read (historian) is notable. It looks like a vanity page. It fails every test of notability in WP:N (most importantly including WP:ANYBIO and WP:ACADEMIC). I think this is unlikely to be controversial, so you should go ahead and use Wikipedia:Proposed deletion, which is a pretty simple process. nhinchey (talk) 04:52, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note: I just changed the title of this section to be the name of the article you're asking about nhinchey (talk) 04:55, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
2025
[edit]How to renominate a page for deletion? XYZ 250706 (talk) 14:56, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- WP:AFDHOWTO includes instructions for what to do if a page has previously been nominated? DonIago (talk) 03:21, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
Sam Bloch
[edit]This is not a notable person 174.197.65.221 (talk) 21:10, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- If your intention is to nominate Sam Bloch for deletion, please follow the steps outlined at WP:AFDHOWTO. DonIago (talk) 03:29, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
Marissa Kurtimah
[edit]Hello. I'm nominating Marissa Kurtimah for deletion due to my belief that she isn't notable for inclusion. I have included my reasoning on the talk page. 99.142.64.153 (talk) 00:27, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- Done; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marissa Kurtimah. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:54, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
Merge nominations
[edit]Can I ask that the following almost identical nominations are merged into a single discussion to avoid having the same debate three times:
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chalkwell (Southend-on-Sea ward)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Milton (Southend-on-Sea ward)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Westborough (ward)
Thanks. MRSC (talk) 05:03, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
Motorsport articles' nomination process to complete.
[edit]Can please someone help to complete the afd nomination process for 5 similar articles?
Main issue is WP:GNG/WP:NOTNEWS violation, but there's stand-alone detailed reasons provided for each of it on their talk pages under the "justification for deletion" section.
Here they are:
- 2020 Ligier European Series
- 2021 Ligier European Series
- 2022 Ligier European Series
- 2023 Ligier European Series
- 2024 Ligier European Series
Thank you in advance. 83.142.111.90 (talk) 23:27, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Your main concern here is a lack of secondary sources and... the fact the pages have "mostly not been updated" since the seasons finished? Do you understand these are all past events?
- All articles seem complete to me – 2020 and 2021 are well-sourced with independent coverage, WP:GNG certainly not an issue – WP:V not an issue either for 2022, 2023 and 2024 as the results PDFs are linked in the respective results sections ([1], [2], [3]). WP:NOTNEWS doesn't track. Doubts arise on whether you've done the research before mass-pinging these for AfD. MSport1005 (talk) 00:46, 1 March 2025 (UTC)