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Yoon Suk Yeol South Korea's Constitutional Court removes Yoon Suk Yeol (pictured) as the president of South Korea, following his earlier declaration of martial law. US president Donald Trump announces trade tariffs on most countries. Marine Le Pen, the runner-up in the 2017 and 2022 French presidential elections, is convicted of embezzlement and banned from standing in elections for five years. A magnitude-7.7 earthquake leaves more than 5,300 people dead in Myanmar and Thailand. Ongoing: Gaza war M23 campaign Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Bill Cottrell Mark Laforest Barbara Frischmuth Enrique Bátiz Temmy Shmull Khamtai Siphandone view — page history — related changes — edit

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April 8

Portal:Current events/2025 April 8
April 8, 2025 (2025-04-8) (Tuesday) International relations Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky confirms the presence of Ukrainian troops active in Russia's Belgorod region. (BBC News)

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April 7

Portal:Current events/2025 April 7

April 7, 2025 (2025-04-7) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian civil war Western Syria clashes 2025 massacres of Syrian Alawites The number of mainly-Alawite Syrian civilians killed in ongoing sectarian reprisal massacres by pro-Syrian government forces and Sunni parties since March 6 rises to 1,767. (SOHR) Gaza war Israeli occupation of the Gaza Strip Israel reportedly controls over half of the land in the Gaza Strip after razing multiple Palestinian properties to expand its buffer zone. (AP) (CNN) An Israeli airstrike hits near a charity kitchen in Gaza where displaced Palestinians gather for food, killing more than 30 people. (AP) Herder–farmer conflicts in Nigeria The National Emergency Management Agency reports that at least 52 people have been killed and over 2,000 others have been displaced from their homes in recent days in tit for tat attacks by rival herders over control of arable land in Plateau State, Nigeria. (Reuters) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa A Pakistan Army raid on a Pakistani Taliban militant hideout in Dera Ismail Khan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, kills nine militants, including a high-profile Taliban leader who coordinated recent attacks on Pakistani military facilities in the region. (AP) Business and economy Tariffs in the second Trump administration, Executive orders in the second presidency of Donald Trump Executive Order 14257 The Nikkei 225, SSE Composite Index, and Hang Seng Index experience substantial losses following Friday’s losses on the New York Stock Exchange as a result of U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs. European markets also decline, particularly in banking and defense sectors. The ASX 200 in Australia and the Kospi in South Korea also closes lower. (BBC News) European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen offers to negotiate with Trump to avoid a trade war and further economic panic, including a zero-for-zero tariff deal on all industrial goods. (Politico) (Euronews) Taiwanese president Lai Ching-te states that he does not intend to implement retaliatory tariffs against the United States. He instead expressed Taiwan's intent to import more American exports and increase its investments in the U.S. economy, beginning with a proposal for a Taiwan–U.S. bilateral zero-tariff deal. (NBC News) U.S. president Donald Trump announces plans to impose a 50% tariff on China, escalating to a total of 104% if China does not revoke its 34% reciprocal tariff on all American goods within a day. China dismisses the plans and maintains its reciprocal tariffs. (CNBC) (NBC News) (AFP via Barron's) International relations Algeria–Mali relations Algeria bans flights to and from Mali in response to "recurrent violations" of Algerian airspace by Malian military drones. (Reuters) Law and crime At least fifteen schools are closed in Duisburg, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany, due to violent threats from unknown far-right extremist individuals, totaling at least 17,000 children affected. (DW) Politics and elections 2025 South Korean presidential election South Korea announces a snap presidential election after the dismissal of former president Yoon Suk Yeol, scheduled for June 3. (Korea JoongAng Daily) Science and technology De-extinction Romulus, Remus, and Khaleesi Colossal Biosciences announce they have bred three genetically modified wolf pups which approximate anatomical features of extinct dire wolves. (TIME) (Bloomberg News) The first birth of a baby in the United Kingdom to a person with a transplanted womb is announced. The baby girl, delivered at Queen Charlotte's and Chelsea Hospital in London to a 36-year-old woman, is reported to be healthy. (BBC News) Sports 2025 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game In college basketball, the Florida Gators rally from a 12-point deficit to defeat the Houston Cougars, 65–63, at the Alamodome to win their first championship since 2007. (Tampa Bay Times)

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Dire news

Articles: Dire wolf (talk · history · tag) and Romulus, Remus, and Khaleesi (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Colossal white wolves with dire wolf traits have been genetically-engineered, recreating the extinct phenotype. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, NYT, The Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by Noble Attempt (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Junsik1223 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Making America great again with a new top predator – what could possibly go wrong...? Note that dire wolf is a Featured Article. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:17, 8 April 2025 (UTC) Andrew🐉(talk) 08:08, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose they didn’t actually bring them back it was just a wolf with dire wolf characteristics. Cool but it is trivial 2401:D002:F504:7200:4D83:6E66:6EB2:42F9 (talk) 08:15, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

The blurb already allows for this aspect, as it's a common point in much of the coverage. But see the duck test. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:39, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - This is a stunt by a tech company, and does not represent any major scientific advance. GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:11, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support. Woolly mammoths and Neanderthals are next. Count Iblis (talk) 09:12, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Peter Geiger

Article: Peter Geiger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Liechtensteiner Vaterland
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by TheBritinator (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Liechtenstein historian TheBritinator (talk) 23:04, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Upon an initial assessment, I am not quite sure this person meets WP:NACADEMIC. With that being said, this nomination is probably not the place to dispute that. I would support per ITNRD if the article gets a little more work to take it outside of stub territory (is there more information about his accomplishments in the German obituaries, e.g.?) and the article is cleaned up to avoid hyperlinks to non-existent pages/direct links to external URLs. Flip^andFlopped ツ 00:17, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

  Yeah, admittedly it could do with a clean-up. I'll look into that later today. TheBritinator (talk) 01:47, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

• We don't post stubs. Schwede66 01:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per above. The article is not of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 07:21, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Clem Burke

Article: Clem Burke (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Consequence
Credits:

• Nominated by Mjroots (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Edwardrhodes06 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Drummer for Blondie and the Ramones Mjroots (talk) 16:55, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Multiple unsourced claims and red links in the life and career section, and the entire discography is unreferenced. Flip^andFlopped ツ 00:20, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

April 6

Portal:Current events/2025 April 6

April 6, 2025 (2025-04-6) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine 2025 Sumy Oblast incursion Russian troops reportedly capture the village of Basivka in Sumy Oblast, Ukraine. (Reuters) Kyiv strikes A Russian airstrike in Darnytskyi District, Kyiv, Ukraine, kills one person and injures three others. (CTV News) Kryvyi Rih strikes The death toll from Friday's missile strike on Kryvyi Rih, Ukraine, rises to 20 deaths, including several children, and 75 injuries. (CTV News) Gaza war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip At least 46 people are killed in Israeli strikes on the Gaza Strip over the last 24 hours. (Al Jazeera) Red Sea crisis March–April 2025 United States attacks in Yemen Between four and 70 people are killed and at least 16 others are injured in overnight U.S. airstrikes targeting Houthi forces in Saada, Yemen. (CTV News) Somali Civil War 2025 Shabelle offensive At least eight civilians are injured after Al-Shabaab militants launch mortar shells for the second consecutive day targeting Aden Adde International Airport and the heavily fortified Halane compound in Mogadishu. Following the attack, Turkish Airlines and Egyptair cancel scheduled flights. (Garowe Online) (Hiiraan Online) (Garowe Online) Disasters and accidents 2025 South Korea wildfires The death toll from the wildfires across South Korea rises to 32 after a Bell 206 firefighting helicopter crashes during operations to combat a wildfire in Daegu, killing the pilot. (Korea JoongAng Daily) Tornado outbreak and floods of April 2–6, 2025 The death toll from the severe weather in the United States rises to 18. (ABC News) Kentucky governor Andy Beshear says that two people have died and 500 roads are closed in the state due to flooding. (Reuters) Around thirty people are killed from overnight heavy flooding caused by torrential rains and water overflowing from the banks of the Ndjili River in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (Al Jazeera) An air ambulance helicopter crashes in the Tsushima Strait off the coast of Nagasaki Prefecture in southwestern Japan, killing three of the six occupants onboard. (AP) (NHK) Health and environment 2025 Southwest United States measles outbreak A child dies from measles complications at the UMC Health System in Lubbock, Texas, United States, becoming the third measles-related death amid outbreaks and the second unvaccinated child victim. (CTV News) Law and crime Four children are injured in a mass stabbing inside a house in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, New York City, New York, United States. The perpetrator was shot and critically injured by responding police officers. (NBC News) Politics and elections 2025 French far-right protests The National Rally party organizes a large demonstration in central Paris to protest Marine Le Pen's conviction in the National Front assistants affair rendering her ineligible to run in the 2027 French presidential election. (AP) Sports 2024–25 NHL season In ice hockey, Washington Capitals forward Alexander Ovechkin scores his 895th career goal, surpassing the all-time goals record held by Wayne Gretzky. (Reuters) 2025 NCAA Division I women's basketball tournament The UConn Huskies win the NCAA Division I women's basketball tournament, beating the South Carolina Gamecocks. UConn's Azzi Fudd is named the Most Outstanding Player.

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2025 NCAA Division I women's basketball championship game

Article: 2025 NCAA Division I women's basketball championship game (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In NCAA Division I basketball, the UConn Huskies win the women's championship (Most Outstanding Player Azzi Fudd pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In NCAA Division I basketball, the UConn Huskies win the women's championship (Most Outstanding Player Azzi Fudd pictured) and the Florida Gators win the men's championship.
News source(s): Fox Sports.
Credits:

• Nominated by Moraljaya67 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Abhiramakella (talk · give credit), PCN02WPS (talk · give credit) and DetroitFan7 (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The article needs expansion for this. Moraljaya67 (talk) 13:31, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality as article needs significant expansion. The Kip ^(contribs) 14:53, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Support now that it has been. The Kip ^(contribs) 17:49, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Wait to post alongside the 2025 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game, currently oppose on quality per The Kip. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1^{(The Garage)} 15:01, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Not that this is ready yet, but there's no reason to have the men's hold up the women's, nor visa versa. The 2024 women's was posted before the men's. —Bagumba (talk) 15:22, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  So apparently we can't wait one day for a game that is happening today? We can wait to post things. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1^{(The Garage)} 17:36, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Team backgrounds and game summary have been added; media and aftermath sections also have content now. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:04, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
  • @The Kip, The Corvette ZR1, and Bagumba: pinging above !voters for potential reassessment. Thanks all, PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:05, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Wait until the men's game is finished later today (for those living in the US), then support as it's a notable sporting event. INeedSupport ^:3 21:09, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Remember the years when the men's final was played before the women's final? I'm confident that we didn't wait for the women's game article to be ready before posting the men's blurb. If it's ready, post it. The men's article can be added when it's ready too. Also, nothing in WP:DEADLINE applies to this situation. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:28, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Since then, we have recognized that if there's nearly simultaneously men's and women's tourneys like this that happen within 1-2 days of each other, waiting for both is necessary to avoid apparent sexism by featuring only one. Masem (t) 03:51, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

  No, we've even posted women's tennis w/o waiting for the men's to be ready.[1] avoid apparent sexism by featuring only one: As opposed to having women wait still for men? No, post the individual pages/events as ready, and then aggregate updates to the blurb for related events as needed. —Bagumba (talk) 05:18, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

  Yeah…no. That's not how Wikipedia works. We simply post things as they happen, and update things as they happen. The fear of unfounded hypothetical ulterior motives is irrelevant. Left guide (talk) 05:50, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Updated blurb. The men's champioship article is good. Moraljaya67 (talk) 03:12, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
• Ready (or at least these should be; both games have full prose game summaries and are in good shape). PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 04:11, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Jay North

Article: Jay North (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American actor. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 11:49, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Picture I just read through this because it was the top read article yesterday and I didn't recognise the name (the UK has a different Dennis the Menace). The article was a good read and, while it's not perfect, it's adequate. As big nostalgia item for many but with weak name recognition, a picture would work best. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:26, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Paul Fierlinger

Article: Paul Fierlinger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Animation Magazine
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Czech-American animator, writer, and director. Death reported 6 April. Thriley (talk) 01:41, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Alexander Ovechkin breaks Wayne Gretzky's goal record

Article: Alexander Ovechkin (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the National Hockey League, Alexander Ovechkin (pictured) breaks Wayne Gretzky's record for most goals scored. (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports; The Athletic
Credits:

• Nominated by Schetm (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Breaking the all-time goal record in a major league sport is more than worthy of an ITN blurb. schetm (talk) 18:52, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support I'd not heard of this guy before but noticed that his article was trending yesterday, when he equalled the record, and so took a look to find out who he was. It was quite an interesting read that worked for me, even though I'm not an ice-hockey fan. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:04, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Notable. Article about the player is ok. Grimes2 (talk) 19:59, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support There are few records that are ITN worthy but this is one of them. One of the two most important stats in ice hockey (together with points), a record that is broken once every 20-40 years, and a sport where the statistic tally is indisputable (cough Pele); and one of the top five leagues in the world by revenue NorthernFalcon (talk) 20:05, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Good for him. It's mind-boggling that anyone managed to beat Gretzky in the record books (although his total points record of 2,857, which includes goals+assists, is almost certainly untouchable). --Bongwarrior (talk) 20:13, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support per all above. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:33, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support _pbp 21:09, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Per all above, his article is pretty good aswell Hungry403 (talk) 21:14, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality Numerous paragraphs in International play are not sourced at all. Masem (t) 21:21, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support on notability, oppose on quality per Masem. Unfortunately I don't have bandwidth to go add refs today, but I might be able to tomorrow if it still hasn't been fixed by then. Flip^andFlopped ツ 21:33, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Strong Support. Ice hockey is one of the most popular sports in America, Canada, and Europe alike. Even if you've never heard of this guy in your life, this is like someone breaking Jerry Rice's receiving yard record, someone breaking Barry Bonds home run record. Thesogra (talk) 23:03, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support, a major sports record and the page, although long, is almost too well sourced (242 sources). Randy Kryn (talk) 23:26, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support, good quality article and a notable achievement. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 23:37, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• More than 20 paragraphs that end without a reference, and many paragraphs without a single reference. Stephen 00:19, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose sporting trivia. Banedon (talk) 00:20, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support per above and nom. AsaQuathern (talk) 00:44, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment: Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/February 2023#(Pulled) LeBron James sets scoring record (a similar feat) may offer relevant precedence and arguments for this ITN candidacy. Left guide (talk) 01:40, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Given the swing there, this should at least be discussed for 24h, during which the quality issues might also be addressed. —Bagumba (talk) 02:14, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  @Bagumba: Good idea, though interestingly it looks like LeBron was posted about 25 hours after being nominated, yet still subsequently pulled. Left guide (talk) 02:49, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Which is why I left it as "at least". —Bagumba (talk) 02:53, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  It getting pulled is still in my opinion one of the worst missteps ITN/C admins have made in recent years - let's not repeat it again. The Kip ^(contribs) 05:16, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support All-time records on objective criteria for a worldwide sport is notable enough for a blurb. Oppose on quality for now, becasue last time I checked there's still a good few uncited sentences in the article. Departure– (talk) 03:13, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on notability per LeBron precedent. One CN tag.WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 03:15, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose sports trivia is not news This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:50, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support The LeBron blurb shouldn't have been pulled, and this should be posted. One of Gretzky's supposedly-unbreakable records falling is not "trivia," and quite frankly I'm insulted by those who think it is. The Kip ^(contribs) 05:14, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Kimi Antonelli just became the youngest person to ever lead a F1 race. If I were to nominate that as a blurb, would you support it? Banedon (talk) 06:38, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Youngest driver would be an easy record to break, has been broken twice in 5 years. This here is a record that stood for 25 years, and likely wont be broken for another 35 years 204.48.93.153 (talk) 13:16, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  If that's the argument, Southampton FC just broke the record for the fastest EPL relegation. If I were to nominate that as a blurb, would you support it? Banedon (talk) 14:16, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Those are both actually trivial records, quit it with this trolling. If someone broke the record for most F1 race wins or most PL/EFL goals I’d support it in a heartbeat. The Kip ^(contribs) 14:43, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Trivial records. Kind of funny, given Alsoriano97's oppose below. Banedon (talk) 15:13, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Again, thats a record that could easily be broken by a single bad season. Breaking Gretzky record, which was done in an era where goaltender equipment was way smaller, making goals way easier to score, was considered impossible in this era. Youngest athlete in XYZ sports, fastest relegation in XYZ leagues, most points scored in a season (althought gretzky 200 points season would be an achievement but i agree not ITN worthy), oldest athlete and so on, those are trivial, could easily be broken 4 or 6 times in a decade. But presently there are no players (apart from matthews maybe but its a looooooooong shot), that could be on a rate to beat that record, and its very unlikely to be broken in the next 30 to 40 years, contrarly to all the other example you presented 204.48.93.78 (talk) 19:12, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose this seems like a north american news (or sports trivia) that many other countries do not know or care about. 2001:D08:1205:AE04:C952:E43:B222:C724 (talk) 05:24, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Ovechkin himself is Russian, and there are many, many results from Russian sources, Norwegian sources, Turkish sources, and others. The assertion that "this seems like a north american news (or sports trivia) that many other countries do not know or care about" is demonstrably false. schetm (talk) 13:10, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Support on notability, have not checked quality Mrfoogles (talk) 15:42, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose goal records don't seem to be posted historically (at least to my knowledge and small search). I don't think regional league (no matter how important) goal records of any sport belong on ITN. 2A02:A03F:EAEE:EE06:80A6:8DD7:DF6E:3B41 (talk) 08:42, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

WP:CIVIL, etc. The Kip (contribs) 06:17, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Touch Grass Scuba 05:25, 7 April 2025 (UTC) Thank you for your constructive comment, well-received. 2001:D08:1205:AE04:C952:E43:B222:C724 (talk) 05:26, 7 April 2025 (UTC) guys let's be kind please: WP:Polite AsaQuathern (talk) 05:28, 7 April 2025 (UTC) Touch AstroTurf. Randy Kryn (talk) 05:42, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Support obvious. Scuba 05:24, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support as this is an outstanding achievement that is widely covered in the media. Furthermore, it's not true that we don't post such records. We posted Magnus Carlsen's record FIDE rating of all time, and pulling LeBron James' record was a mistake.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 06:58, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  The BIG difference is FIDE rating is I - International while this concerns a national league. Furthermore ice-hockey is FAR down the list of sports by popularity, to the point where i think it is hard to justify a national goal record as ITN. 2A02:A03F:EAEE:EE06:80A6:8DD7:DF6E:3B41 (talk) 07:53, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  NHL is an international league as it consists of clubs from Canada and the United States.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:37, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  IIHF considers winning the NHL as equivalent to winning an Olympic gold medal and a World Championship. See Triple Gold Club. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:32, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Some positive news, and if you think this is a bit north American centric, we can balance it later with international events or events outside of North America. Also, NHL contains players from Canada, USA, Russia, and all over the world. Harizotoh9 (talk) 11:28, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Congrats, Ovechkin. But looks like utter sports trivia which will affect no-one and will have zero consequences. Does this really have news coverage across the world? 205.239.40.3 (talk) 13:22, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, this really has news coverage across the world. Ovechkin himself is Russian, and there are many, many results from Russian sources, Norwegian sources, Turkish sources, and others. schetm (talk) 13:55, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per all above. Trivial. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:03, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  It is very rare for the record to be broken. It has been a long time for this to happen. Also there is the Lebron precedent. AsaQuathern (talk) 20:13, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support It is incredibly rare for a record this old to be broken so many years later. Nationality shouldn't matter. A record is still a record. Urbanracer34 (talk) 14:12, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  So how many years is it? To what is it compared to make it "incredibly rare"? 205.239.40.3 (talk) 14:21, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  The time between new records for this has progressively increased (10ish years for Howe, 30ish for Gretz, 31 for Ovechkin), and with the total getting increasingly higher while scoring plateaus, that’s likely to become longer if it’s even ever broken again. The Kip ^(contribs) 14:42, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Eh? So the record is broken every 30 years or so, on average. Because it was broken five years sooner, it's "incredibly rare"? Surely it would be much rarer if is was broken after only one or two years? 205.239.40.3 (talk) 14:45, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  I’ve edited my comment to reflect the actual reality and clarify my meaning. This record is only rarely broken and likely won’t be broken again. If you can’t see how that’s not trivial I don’t see how you ever will. The Kip ^(contribs) 14:50, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  I trust you have multiple WP:RS sources that say "likely won’t be broken again", otherwise it sounds like WP:CRYSTAL. Maybe the blurb should say "broken after 30 years" or something? 205.239.40.3 (talk) 15:00, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  The last time the goal scoring record was broken was 31 years ago. That span of time makes it incredibly rare, and the scope of global news coverage makes this objectively noteworthy enough for an ITN blurb. schetm (talk) 14:44, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  The Kip above says this is just about "average"? 205.239.40.3 (talk) 14:46, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Yes. Rare. It's an event that happens, on average, more than a quarter century apart. That makes it rare. Not to mention the vast scale of global press coverage of this event. schetm (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  I guess we can’t post total solar eclipses anymore since they happen every 18 months or so, guess that makes them trivial. The Kip ^(contribs) 14:52, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, I guess so. I've noticed that sunrises and sunsets also don't often get mentioned. 205.239.40.3 (talk) 14:55, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Sounds a bit predictable to me. Is it rare compared to record-breaking goal tallies in other team sports? How often do they happen? 205.239.40.3 (talk) 14:52, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Can one of the “this is trivia!!!” voters actually explain how/why this is trivial, other than ITN’s occasional “sports bad” sentiment? People complain about how sports news on ITN is routine, meanwhile here’s something absolutely not routine and it’s branded “trivia.“ The Kip ^(contribs) 14:48, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  So what consequences does it have? for anyone? 205.239.40.3 (talk) 14:53, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  The same argument can be made for anything sports-related. Why bother posting sports at all if it's all inconsequential? /over.throws/^✎ 14:58, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Really, the “inconsequential” argument can be made for anything we post that’s not politics or a war/disaster, and yet others consistently criticize ITN for being a politics/war/disaster ticker. The Kip ^(contribs) 15:18, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  "I contend we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -- Stephen F. Roberts.

  In the same way, I gave you two more records above that were both achieved last weekend. You dismissed them as trivial. When you can explain why you dismiss these other records as trivial, you'll be able to explain why I dismiss this one as trivial. Banedon (talk) 15:21, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  The burden of proof is really on you to prove how this clearly-important record is as “trivial” as those are, but I’ll entertain the premise I suppose.

  First off, to put it bluntly, this is receiving massive media coverage and attention across the world. That’s what Wikipedia’s standards of notability are based on. If you can pull up two dozen news articles from two dozen varied news sources about how important Kimi Antonelli’s record is, be my guest.

  With more regards to opinion, some records are simply obscure/less important. “Youngest/oldest to do something,” especially when it’s been broken multiple times in the last few years like the F1 record, is one of those. Fastest relegation from the Premier League is solely a domestic league record, and one that could easily be broken with how the PL’s parity with the Championship is in some ways decreasing. In the same vein, I wouldn’t even begin to consider nominating Ovechkin breaking the record for most game-winning goals, or empty-net goals, or power-play goals; these are more obscure, sport/league-specific items of note. Nobody nominated the Boston Bruins’ best NHL season ever a few years back either, and I wouldn’t have supported that anyways.

  Breaking the all-time goal-scoring record, in the world’s biggest hockey league, a record that was previously thought unbreakable, in a sport that is centered entirely on scoring goals, is not one of those records. Similarly, I’d support a blurb for someone breaking the all-time PL/international soccer goal record, or the F1 race wins record. The Kip ^(contribs) 15:40, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Don't bring up "burden of proof", or I'll say that the burden of proof is on you to show that this record is not trivial.

  First, this is not receiving massive media coverage and attention across the world. I didn't see anything about it until I saw it on ITNC. It's there if I look for it, but that goes for most sporting trivia (you can try searching for the two records I showed above - the Kimi Antonelli record was on ESPN, Straits Times, France24, New York Times, and more).

  You could argue that this record is obscure/less important; that runs right into the argument I made above that this record is also "obscure/less important". Again, you are hard-pressed to come up with objective criteria as to why this record matters and the others don't. (And I can come up with a lot more such records, especially if the scope is broader than "last weekend").

  Here's another example. You say you'll support a blurb for someone breaking the all-time soccer goal record, etc. Last weekend Stockfish set the record for the all-time highest rating in computer chess. Will you support that? This is even a global rating, while NHL is a 2-country league. But I honestly doubt you'll support it; you'll say "that record is broken every day!" in which case I'd point out that if Ovechkin plays another game and scores another goal, then he'd be breaking the record again, so this record is allegedly broken very often.

  What all this illustrates is just how arbitrary these records are. From my point of view what matters in sports coverage is 1) who won and 2) what the score was; everything else is trivia. Banedon (talk) 02:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

  Agree with The Kip above: It's very difficult to see your counterexamples as commensurable with the Ovechkin record; the former are just plainly incidental. /over.throws/^✎ 15:42, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  None of the records you cite got anywhere near the level of coverage in global reliable sources as the Ovechkin record. They relatively got, at best, "trivial" levels. That's the difference. Flip^andFlopped ツ 21:19, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  THANK YOU. AsaQuathern (talk) 20:14, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support. It's every thirty years or so per above. That indicates this is a once-per-generation achievement in the discipline. I don't think "trivia" rightfully characterizes the rarity and effort of this achievement. It's very much a landmark for the sport. /over.throws/^✎ 14:56, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support. per nom. Shanes (talk) 14:59, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment re quality: will be providing references in the International play section. /over.throws/^✎ 15:45, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support on Notability. I'm glad LeBron's record was noted here for reference, because I think we made a serious mistake pulling that story. The way I see it, we have these leagues in ITN/R for their championships, but in some cases you could argue that the breaking of key records could be an even bigger story than that year's championship. In this case, at least, I think it is. Gretzky's nickname "The Great One" wasn't just a simple moniker - it was a statement of his status as the greatest to ever do it. While Gretzky's points record may be the most hollowed, it's really hard to overstate just how impressive Ovi breaking the goals record is, and how dominant he's been for years to earn this status. In short, this is more than just trivia - it's the hockey moment of a generation. DarkSide830 (talk) 17:33, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  I strongly agree with this rationale, to such an extent that I want to voice my agreement explicitly.

  If we don't post sports trivia, why do we post ITNR tons of annual championships which garner very little coverage in the reliable sources, but then decline groundbreaking world records which get overwhelming coverage in global RS? The fact of the matter is, we do post sports trivia, and we do it as a matter of ITNR! Flip^andFlopped ツ 21:18, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose We don't typically post sports records. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:02, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Check the Lebron precedent above. AsaQuathern (talk) 20:14, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support, sadly. Gretzky's achievement was monumental - and exceeding it perhaps even more so. And most importantly, well covered in the media. This record has stood for over a generation. And I shouldn't oppose it even though given the odious nature of either gentleman. Nfitz (talk) 19:39, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. There are many such records in sport, football goals records, touchdown records, cricketing runs / wickets etc. By and large these are incremental in nature and not usually significant enough for ITN. LeBron was a particularly prominent example, and although he was initially posted there wasn't consensus in the end and the decision to post him was a mistake. Let's not repeat that please.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:23, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  The last time this record was broken was in 1994. Scuba 23:11, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment from nom - Support currently stands at 24; oppose at 10. I've never posted at ITN before, but in almost every other part of Wikipedia, that demonstrates a consensus. The ref issues in the international play section have been dealt with. This article is ready, and the !votes are clear. It's worth noting that a fair few opposes smell of WP:IDONTLIKEIT - asserting this is trivia without saying why. The massive amount of news coverage from all around the world makes this item, literally, In The News. It's time for someone to slap a ready on this one. schetm (talk) 01:38, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

  Thank you! AsaQuathern (talk) 01:55, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

• All this talk and still swathes of unreferenced material. Stephen 02:45, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

  What do you make of the consensus above? schetm (talk) 02:59, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

  What consensus above? It's not getting posted as an unreferenced BLP. Stephen 04:12, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

  Stephen is making the point that the article is not ready for posting. Whether the topic is notable or not is moot if the bolded article does not meet quality standards. Natg 19 (talk) 04:51, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Agree that most sports stories we post can be considered trivia (even have boating, darts etc. at ITNR), so an argument on that line is tempered by the fact that this is perhaps the trivia of this sport. Though I am not comfortable with overturning the LeBron precedent especially for niches. Gotitbro (talk) 03:01, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
• Sourcing comment The § Career statistics section needs citations. The entries at § Honors, awards, and achievements and § Records lack citations. Some might be repeated facts already in prose, but it doesn't seem reasonable that readers would remember already seeing this level of minutiae, and not question whether it's verifiable. If it's already sourced, it should be straightforward to reuse the citations in the list.—Bagumba (talk) 06:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

  @Bagumba: In sports bios, isn't there often a single master source used to cite the whole section for these types of things like stats, awards, and records? Left guide (talk) 06:09, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

  @Left guide: I can't speak for hockey, but it probably depends on the level of detail in the bio, and whether that is covered by a single source. Nobody needs a citation every line if a WP:GENREF suffices for the entire page or a specific section. For example, see Slick Watts § NBA career statistics, a recent RD post. —Bagumba (talk) 06:31, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

  @Bagumba: Ok thanks for the info. I added a couple of WP:GENREF sources (ESPN, Yahoo Sports) atop the sections that should be able to verify large batches of previously unsourced material that you called out. Left guide (talk) 07:15, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Tony Rundle

Article: Tony Rundle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News (Australia)
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:E966:5804:5261:FE41 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jim Pleiades Hawkins (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Premier of Tasmania (1996–1998). 240F:7A:6253:1:E966:5804:5261:FE41 (talk) 08:09, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - Though untagged, article is quite poorly sourced… two, to be precise, as of this edit. Jusdafax (talk) 09:43, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Jusdafax. Flip^andFlopped ツ 00:28, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Chicago I-94 Crash

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Interstate 94 (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Fox 32 Chicago
Credits:

• Nominated by Valorrr (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Current Event Valorrr ^{(lets chat)} 17:55, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose routine passanger car accident. Type of content that shouldn't even be covered in WP per WP:NOTNEWS Masem (t) 18:00, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose—first, this event isn't in the article. Second, we wouldn't actually add it to Interstate 94 in Illinois anyway. Imzadi 1979 → 18:00, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose I'm going to presume AGF since the user seems new and unaware of notability rules for what should or should not be nominated, but this obviously does not pass as in the news. This is hyperlocal and has no significance past tomorrow to anyone other than the family involved. Plus, there isn't even an article about this. Kline • talk • contribs 18:04, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Strong oppose and close - Yea, no. No indication of significance, article doesn’t even mention the crash so I don’t know how many dies, although I’m assuming it was a routine fatality count (under 6). Very tragic and sad for the families of the people involved, but we don’t post this type of stuff. E_F⁵ 18:10, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

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April 5

Portal:Current events/2025 April 5

April 5, 2025 (2025-04-5) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Kryvyi Rih strikes The Ukrainian government declares April 6 as a day of mourning following yesterday's Russian missile strike on Kryvyi Rih in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, Ukraine, that killed twenty people, one of the deadliest strikes since the start of the invasion. (de Volkskrant) Somali Civil War 2025 Shabelle offensive Colonel Nur Farey, the senior Somali military commander of the 14th brigade, is assassinated by a man believed to be an al-Shabaab militant in Addow Dibille near Afgoye, Lower Shabelle, Somalia. (Hiiraan Online) Business and economy Tariffs in the second Trump administration, Executive orders in the second presidency of Donald Trump Executive Order 14257 The first of two tariff rounds go into effect in the United States, containing a 10% blanket tariff on every import into the country. The second round of country-specific tariffs is scheduled to go into effect on April 9. (Reuters) UK-based multinational car manufacturer Jaguar Land Rover suspends vehicle exports to the United States for a month to evaluate the impact of Trump's tariffs on the automotive industry. (Fox Business) Disasters and accidents Two people are killed after a caravan catches fire at a campsite in Skegness, Lincolnshire, England. (Sky News) Two reporters are killed after a metal structure collapses during the Festival Ceremonia in Mexico City, Mexico. (USA Today) International relations Israel–United Kingdom relations Israel blocks two British Labour Party MPs from entering the country. (Reuters) South Sudan–United States relations, Immigration policy of the second Donald Trump administration U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio announces the revocation of all visas of South Sudanese passport holders, citing "the failure of South Sudan's transitional government to accept the return of its repatriated citizens in a timely manner." (BBC) Politics and elections Protests against the second presidency of Donald Trump "Hands Off" protests against President Donald Trump occur across the United States. (The New York Times) Sports 2025 Grand National In horse racing, Nick Rockett, rode by Irish jockey Patrick Mullins, wins the 2025 Grand National at Aintree Racecourse in England. (BBC Sport)

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Grand National

Article: 2025 Grand National (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nick Rockett ridden by Patrick Mullins wins the Grand National. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by MaxBrowne2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: All three articles are currently quite stubby but there seems to be something to say about a couple of horses that didn't finish. Also, I read an interesting article recently which explained that horse-racing in the US is quite dead as a spectator sport and has become a corrupt adjunct of the casino business. I'm not sure how the UK compares... Andrew🐉(talk) 08:22, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose for now. Article is a stub. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:43, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose The article has no highlights summary. Moraljaya67 (talk) 11:04, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose Unfortunately there’s not much to the article nominated. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:12, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose as a stub. The Kip ^(contribs) 05:18, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Hands Off protests

Hands Off demonstration in Washington, D.C.

Article: Hands Off protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Over 1,300 Hands Off protests take place across the United States against the second Trump administration (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Over 1,300 Hands Off protests take place across the United States, Canada, and Europe against the second Trump administration.
News source(s): CNN, The Washington Post, Axios, USA Today, The New York Times, AP News, The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Mrfoogles (talk · give credit)
• Created by Another Believer (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Another Believer (talk · give credit), Kire1975 (talk · give credit) and Mrfoogles (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: WSB-TV described this as the first "mass mobilization" against the second Trump administration, comparing it to the 2017 Women's March, which is significant. Additionally it is on the front page of the Washington Post, and in the New York Times, Axios, CNN, USA Today, The Guardian, despite not even having finished happening yet. About 100,000 people attended the D.C. rally and probably many more attended all the rallies, of which there were thousands, in sum. Think this is worth putting on the page and informing people about -- new to ITN but hopefully the article updating (3 cited paragraphs) is good enough. More can probably be added. Mrfoogles (talk) 22:08, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

• Wait The topic is attracting a lot of attention - The Guardian quotes organisers estimating half a million protestors across the US, which is big for the US, so it's newsworthy. The article was created 5 April, so the amount of updated content is sufficient. However, the article itself to a large degree describes plans and what is happening "now" rather than what happened. Work is needed to bring it up to standard. Even the second out of the three sentences of the lead is about what is planned. Boud (talk) 00:04, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support The article is now written about a past event. There are some online hints that protests will continue 6 April in some places, but if WP:RS report that, then that can be added later. Boud (talk) 10:32, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

These are not the first mass protests in this administration, eg several on 2/17 [2]. Additionally, as these have been peaceful and have no apparent affect, there's not much impact compared to what happens with other protests that we usually post. Masem (t) 00:00, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Are there any sources saying that earlier Trump-II-era protests had 500,000 or more participants? If not, then this is the biggest US anti-Trump-II protest. Reliable sources will judge the political impact in the long term - these are not the sort of protests that lead to the immediate resignation of a politician. Neither police violence against protestors nor violence by protestors is a requirement for newsworthiness. Boud (talk) 00:12, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

The news story you just cited described "thousands" of people as marching at D.C. The news stories about this protest describe 100,000 people protesting at D.C. alone. The difference in order of magnitude from the protests you are citing is 100 times. Mrfoogles (talk) 06:13, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

To be fair I don't see an exact count on the protest you mentioned, but this protest is likely ~10 times larger at least in D.C.. Mrfoogles (talk) 06:16, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support I feel these protests are notable for their unusually large size -- if reports 500,000+ attended nationwide are true, which I believe they are after viewing the images of the crowd sizes in the attached articles, then this movement would be comparable to the anti-Iraq war protests at their peak and essentially appeared out of nowhere during a non-election season. Gambitenthusiast99 (talk) 00:22, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

100,000 people attended the D.C. protest alone, according to current estimates, so I wouldn't be surprised. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:39, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose: Protests are commonplace news, what makes this one so special? That it happens in the US? Cambalachero (talk) 00:46, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Cambalachero, we frequently post protests, including from other countries than the USA, if they attract a large quantity of protestors and receive international news coverage: see e.g. 2025 Turkish protests, Canada convoy protest, 2024–present Serbian anti-corruption protests, 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest, which were all posted. Flip^andFlopped ツ 01:55, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

All of those had some type of actual demonstratable impact, like roads being blocked in the Candian or Indian ones. So far we just have large numbers showing up and calming protesting. Masem (t) 03:35, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Protests that block roads aren't necessarily inherently more significant than those that do not; e.g. the Vietnam war protests couldn't be called insignificant just because they weren't all focused on blocking roads. But the truth of protests' long-term effects is only known long after the event -- so if we want to cover current news, we are forced to guess based on their size and news coverage. Mrfoogles (talk) 05:56, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

What are examples of the effects of a protest or set of protests per WP:NPOV consensus based on WP:RS in Wikipedia? Per protest: When protests are part of a systematic and peaceful nonviolent campaign to achieve a particular objective, and involve the use of pressure as well as persuasion, they go beyond mere protest and may be better described as civil resistance or nonviolent resistance.[6] "Systematic and peaceful nonviolent campaigns" are long-term processes - WP:RS may report the effects in days, weeks, months or years; the impact (or lack of impact) is not yet known. Boud (talk) 10:42, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

The problem we have at ITN is that there are a fair number of protests occurring around the globe every day. We absolutely cannot feature them all, and so we generally look to a metric about actual impact and not just the mere act of a protest. Masem (t) 14:39, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

This isn't a protest, it's 1,300 protests, some with on the order of 100,000 people in multiple major cities, which made the front page of most major US newspapers. It doesn't happen every day by any means. That's the distinguishing factor. Mrfoogles (talk) 05:54, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Wait per Boud. Depending on how enduring/prominent the coverage of this is throughout the next couple days across global news sources, I may be inclined to support. I generally disagree with the idea that we should be gauging their effect or impact on American democracy or society based on how peaceful or large they are, as that is WP:CRYSTAL. Suitability for posting here can only really be measured by how much enduring, sustained coverage and emphasis they get in the reliable sources, which is yet to be fully seen, as protests are onging. Hence the wait vote. Flip^andFlopped ツ 01:47, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

  I agree that waiting is probably a good idea. I'm not sure that requiring news stories be published again, in the days after, right after the first news stories were published, is a good idea, though? Usually emphasis on long-lasting coverage talks about more than the next couple days after an event -- more like months, or years. WP:CRYSTAL applies to article content -- speculation should generally not be placed there. However, it doesn't restrict making editorial judgements as to what is worth putting on the main page based on guesses of its significance -- in a sense, that's most of the point of this page. Mrfoogles (talk) 05:59, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

  WP is not a newspaper, and ITN is not a news ticker. Our goal is to feature quality articles that happened to have been in the news, not to report news, and we'd rather wait to have an idea of impact or significance as documented by sources rather than just rushing to put it on the maijn page. Masem (t) 06:16, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

  Agreed that ITN is for quality articles that happen to be in the news. The impact will only be known in the long term, but the notability is well-sourced and well-defined, as in the first sentence of the lead: ...the largest one-day, nationwide display of public resistance against the second administration of President Donald Trump. The quality of the article seems acceptable to me now. Boud (talk) 11:02, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Estimates report around 500,000 participants in a nation of 350,000,000. One out of every seven hundred people did the absolute bare minimum thing they could possibly do to voice disagreement with what has widely been described as a fascist takeover and an intentional triggering of a Great Depression. If I was a MAGA supporter, I would be absolutely thrilled with the turnout. The most radical administration in US history and virtually everyone shrugged their shoulders and kept on scrolling.Danthemankhan 03:18, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

  Your reply here comes across as bizarrely defeatist, fatalistic, and dismissive of the actual significance of this event. 500,000 is massive and would easily put this in the top five largest single-day protests in U.S. history. What were you expecting? People still have jobs and families. Gambitenthusiast99 (talk) 04:21, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

  To add on to what @Gambitenthusiast99 said, going to a protest is a significant amount of effort, especially if it's a huge, chaotic crowd of 100,000 people. They can last hours, and big ones have to deal with riot police, and sometimes tear gas. And if you're really trying to talk about the bare minimum thing that can be done, it's much easier to e.g. call your representatives. It would be amazing but is unreasonable to expect that every American who thinks these actions are a major problem to come out for a day and stand in a protest, if they even heard about it. The fact that 500,000 people did, across the 50 states, indicates that there are many more than 1 in 700 who care deeply about the issues -- that's how all protests work. Mrfoogles (talk) 06:11, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Wait So far, the readership for the article is quite small -- just 4K yesterday. For comparison, note that the readership for 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre has been remarkably huge lately -- over 4 million -- which is a thousand times greater. I'm not sure why that is -- maybe it's an effect of a recent HK court case.

So, this new article needs more time to settle down and establish whether it's something that our readership is also searching for.

Andrew🐉(talk) 07:14, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Let's hope it doesn't go Tiananmen. Bremps... 07:35, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Andrew Davidson, haven't you been told numerous times that pageviews don't matter at ITNC? I feel like I've seen several people call you out on it, yet you continue. — E_F⁵ 12:50, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

I don't normally respond to such badgering because it's invalid and off-topic. There was a proposal six months ago that our readership should be ignored but this did not command a consensus or even a majority. The actual rules are per WP:ITNSIGNIF, "It is highly subjective whether an event is considered significant enough, and ultimately each event should be discussed on its own merits." A high level of readership clearly merits consideration because it obviously chimes with ITN's primary purpose, "To help readers find and quickly access content they are likely to be searching for because an item is in the news." ITN is here to help the readership, not to ignore it. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:33, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Ignoring ITN’s procedures and norms wholesale no matter how many times he’s reminded of them in favor of his own bizarre logic has pretty much been Andrew’s thing for years now. The Kip ^(contribs) 14:00, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

It makes sense that Tiananmen Square is more famous than this, but I don’t think that makes it not worth featuring. E.g. the election of the Latvian president is probably not what the majority of people in the world are searching for, but we feature it anyways because it’s significant. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:07, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• After a full day, the readership was a respectable 50K but that's still less than the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre and doesn't stand out significantly from other Trump topics.

The article says that the protests are ongoing but doesn't make it clear to what extent they are continuing now. As a one-off, I don't think they've had sufficient impact but we can keep the nomination open in case there are fresh and prolonged waves, as happened with the Occupy movement.

Andrew🐉(talk) 08:47, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment if we were to post this all four of the items on ITN would be about far-right politicians, I'm unsure if that's a good thing. Black Kite (talk) 07:52, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

  That it shows that all of these far-right politicians are so unpopular that people are protesting them? I don't see a problem about that.

  What "bad thing" are you trying to imply here? SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 09:39, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support unusually large protests ShirtMonopoly (talk) 12:18, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose on quality - Dupe-cite tag, unicted sentence in the #Virginia section, NPSN tag in lead. — E_F⁵ 12:52, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

@EF5: Still far from WP:GA status, but the two dupe-citations, the unicted ;) sentence in #Virginia, and the non-primary sources sentence have been tidied up. I also usurped ;) the oddly claimed URL usurpations. Boud (talk) 14:33, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Strong support, this seems to be the largest protest against Trump's actions, and the article is well cited and good quality. Given the muted response from the Democratic Party to Trump, this appears to be a very important political event in the US. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chorchapu (talk • contribs) 14:14, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Protests have minimal impact. We did not post Trump policies with massive global impact like shutting down USAID (which will cost many lives in developing countries) and the Signal group chat (which will strain diplomatic ties with Europe). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.198.3 (talk) 14:31, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose ITN isn't a Trump ticker. A lot is going to happen in the next 3.5 years (if not more) and it's likely going to be covered heavily by most newspapers given how connected the US is to the world. Why not just have the Trump administration in ongoing at this rate? 202.144.171.99 (talk) 15:30, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose maybe it's my fault since I only use the AP for my news, but this is legitimately the first I'm hearing of this. They seem rather small and don't have ITN worthy news coverage. Scuba 15:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

They’re the largest protests so far, and they really are in most major newspapers. I also find out about a lot of things for the first time from the Wikipedia ITN, but I don’t think that means they’re not worth putting there —- it means that ITN is working because I’m learning stuff. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:02, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Protests themselves don't matter and have functionally no more impact than whining on social media. It's not like this is part of a political crisis in America, and this event is already OUT of the news cycle, thus literally not "in the News". What importance some people (especially in America) attach to the protests is irrelevant. Compare this to the Myanmar Earthquake, or the Trump Tariffs, and it's apples and oranges. Harizotoh9 (talk) 02:52, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Comment as nom Replaced the image with a similar but better one with more people. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:10, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Definitely a major protest against Trump but the US is in complete flux right now and when put in context this [along with other anti-Trump and anti-Musk protests] does not appear to be of much significance. Pushback in the form of Trump policy blockage or judicial checks would appear much more ITN suitable. In other news, Trump fired the top US security establishment when an alt-right white supremacist told him they were not loyal enough to MAGA. And so we go. Gotitbro (talk) 18:15, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

  You're welcome to propose a different notable act of resistance against the Trump-II administration for ITN. From a long-term sociopolitical point of view, it's true that judicial blocking of democratic backsliding may be more notable than street protests, but short-term statements by political scientists or legal experts are harder to find and get a lot less media attention. If you can find one, then please propose one of these specific events that has sufficient new content, is a Wikipedia article of sufficient quality, and is considered newsworthy by the mainstream media WP:RS and preferably also by researchers. Boud (talk) 21:29, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Already out of the news cycle, unclear what if any impact it has had or will have (or won't have). As I said, it's out of the news cycle, so it was a blip and then over. No impact internationally or even within the USA's political system. Harizotoh9 (talk) 02:39, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  I don't think you can assume protests have no impact just because most major newspapers only do 1 story on them. Mrfoogles (talk) 02:50, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  It's unclear how protests that have wound down, are out of the news cycle, will have any impact. Protests can have impact if it leads to a political crisis, leadership resigning, etc, but none of that has happened. If one in 700 people in El Salvador engaged in a nation-wide protest, and it was unclear what the impact was, I would treat the story the same. Compare these protests to the Myanmar earthquake that left thousands dead, and the new Trump tariffs which will have worldwide economic impact. Those events have clear impacts. Harizotoh9 (talk) 03:08, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Harizotoh9 "No impact internationally", actually that is not quite accurate: see e.g. Canada, Europe, Australia & New Zealand. Flip^andFlopped ツ 17:41, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, no impact internationally. It hasn't even led to any of those countries changing any of their policies. They're continuing what they were gonna do anyways. I repeat: No Impact Internationally. Making noise is not an impact. Harizotoh9 (talk) 06:38, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

• Reluctant, weak oppose The sheer scale of the protests probably meets the ITN bar, but most of the protests we've posted in recent memory have had endurance to them as well, while these were specifically a one-day event. The Kip ^(contribs) 05:18, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose The Serbian, North Macedonian and South Korean protests recently were not posted for a lack of impact, and those were the biggest protests those countries have seen for a long time and much larger population percentages took part in those. These protests are tiny and weak compared to the size of the country and the impact a protest could or arguably should have especially considering the subject matter has affected the whole world. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:50, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, I forgot to mention the most obvious: the South Korean protests didn't make ITN, but the impeachment of the President did! Same would apply here. Unless something tangible happens, protests themselves are not notable. Harizotoh9 (talk) 12:21, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Protests, as they occur in so many other places. Doubtful notorious and real impact. Nor are they triggered by an extraordinary event such as the removal of a president (South Korea) or an accident with many victims (Serbia). Meh. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:07, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Relevant update: the actual number of protesters is not known with complete certainty but may have numbered in the millions [3]. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:11, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

See List_of_protests_and_demonstrations_in_the_United_States_by_size for a size comparison assuming organizer's numbers are accurate. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:13, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

We have to wait for official and confirmable figures from objective sources (those of the organisers, in any protest, are usually biased). In any case, the US has a population of over 340 million people...low impact. And when we talk about impact it is not only the number of people who join the protest, but also political consequences and, in this case, none is to be expected. _-_Alsor (talk) 19:45, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose This will likely become a regular occurrence during his second term and are unlikely to have a significant impact on policy unless it becomes violent. GWA88 (talk) 17:12, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  It seems unlikely that million-person protests will happen regularly during the presidency, although that would be interesting. Mrfoogles (talk) 18:06, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  Another is already planned for April 19. There are very much likely to be routine as long as they remain peaceful. Masem (t) 18:08, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support altblurb The current blurb is somewhat inaccurate, because in fact, hundreds of these Hands Off Protests occurred in Canada and Europe as well: for sources to that effect, see e.g. protests in Canada, protests in Europe. I think the global nature of the protests lends towards notability. Flip^andFlopped ツ 17:37, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

  (As nom) altblurb seems fine to me. Mrfoogles (talk) 18:05, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Comment If this does get posted, just merge it with the tariff blurb. Bremps... 06:10, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

April 4

Portal:Current events/2025 April 4

April 4, 2025 (2025-04-4) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War Russian invasion of Ukraine Kharkiv strikes, Attacks on civilians in the Russian invasion of Ukraine Five people are killed, including a child, and 35 are injured in a Russian drone attack on a residential area in Novobavarskyi District of Kharkiv, Ukraine. (Ukrainska Pravda) Kryvyi Rih strikes A Russian ballistic missile strike on a residential area in Kryvyi Rih, Ukraine, kills 19 people, including nine children, and injures more than 50 others. The Russian Defence Ministry says its forces were targeting a military gathering in the city. (CNN) (BBC News) (Ukrainska Pravda) (Reuters) M23 campaign 2025 Walikale offensive The Congolese media reports that M23 rebels retreating from Walikale have arrived in Kibua in North Kivu, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (Critical Threats) Syrian civil war Syrian peace process Groups of Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) militants withdraw from the two neighborhoods of Sheikh Maqsood and Achrafieh in Aleppo, Syria, as part of a deal with the Syrian government, which will eventually merge the SDF and the Syrian Armed Forces under one command. (AP) Gaza war More than 30 people are killed in Israeli airstrikes in Gaza. (Channel 4 News) Business and economy Tariffs in the second Trump administration China–United States trade war China responds to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs with a 34% reciprocal tariff on imports of American goods. The tariffs will take effect on April 10. (CNN) Donald Trump's Liberation Day speech Multiple companies, including Klarna, StubHub, Nintendo, and Professional Sports Authenticator, pause price-sensitive business actions in the U.S. to evaluate the impact of the recent tariff announcements. (The Wall Street Journal) (IGN) (The Verge) Stocks fall for the second consecutive day following Trump's recent tariff announcements. Over the past two days, the S&P 500 is down over 10%, while the FTSE 100 is down 6.97% for the week. (The Guardian) Democratic Republic of the Congo–United States relations Lamuka opposition coalition spokesperson Prince Epenge criticizes the proposed minerals-for-security deal between the Democratic Republic of Congo and the United States, describing it as a "sell-off." (Critical Threats) Disasters and accidents Kočani nightclub fire The death toll from the fire at a nightclub in Kočani, North Macedonia, in March increases to 60 as a burn victim dies in the hospital. (AP) Ten people are killed when a landslide caused by torrential rains buries two vehicles in Mojokerto, East Java, Indonesia. (AP) Law and crime Impeachment of Yoon Suk Yeol The Constitutional Court of Korea unanimously upholds former President Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment in an 8–0 vote, removing him from office. (The Korea Times) Politics and elections Deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia United States federal judge for the District Court of Maryland Paula Xinis orders the Trump administration to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Salvadoran national from Maryland who was mistakenly deported and sent to the Terrorism Confinement Center in Tecoluca, El Salvador. (AP) Thousands of people demonstrate in Bangui, Central African Republic, to protest against President Faustin-Archange Touadéra's plans to run for a third term with the backing of the Russian-led Wagner Group, who has killed indiscriminately in the country. (AP) Sports 2024–25 NHL season In ice hockey, Washington Capitals forward Alexander Ovechkin scores his 894th career goal, tying the all-time goals record held by Wayne Gretzky. (ESPN)

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RD: Petro Georgiou

Article: Petro Georgiou (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC, Sydney Morning Herald, 9News
Credits:

• Nominated by V. L. Mastikosa (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Liberal member of the Australian House, known for supporting the rights of refugees and immigrants, and crossing the floor to vote against to vote against offshore processing of asylum seekers. V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 12:41, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Support Complete enough and cited enough. Bremps... 19:03, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Unreferenced date of birth. Schwede66 05:12, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Paul Karo

Article: Paul Karo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4], [5]
Credits:

• Nominated by Happily888 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by HungryReptile (talk · give credit), DrKilleMoff (talk · give credit) and Schwede66 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Happily888 (talk) 11:28, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

• I've done quite a bit of work on this (expansion; referencing; tidy up). Not perfect yet, but nearly there. Schwede66 05:42, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Manoj Kumar

Article: Manoj Kumar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian Actor Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:31, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support The article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:56, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Quite well-sourced and of decent length and cogently written. Jusdafax (talk) 09:47, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Unreferenced date of birth. Schwede66 02:11, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Added ref for date of birth.Can you please take a look.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 11:01, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Mirawas

Article: Mirawas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): DAWN
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Ainty Painty (talk) 05:02, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose First sentence runs into a WP:NPOV issue and the rest of the article doesn't let up. The writing's charming but not suited for Wikipedia without revision. Bremps... 07:46, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose + Snow Close per @Bremps Shaneapickle (talk) 13:07, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Unless the subject is not worthy of an article at all, the usual point of RD is to polish the article up rather than reject it based on its initial condition. Cheers, Bremps... 16:57, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

These are fixable issues with an RD article, a WP:SNOW close isn't appropriate. RachelTensions (talk) 04:06, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Wait - Too early for a SNOW close; issues are fixable. E_F⁵ 13:12, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Comment - I did some copy-editing for a more neutral point of view and added a citation needed tag. Youraveragearmy (talk) 18:43, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose: per @Bremps LuxembourgFan42 (talk) 15:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Support it's a little slim, but I'm not seeing any unreferenced claims or NPOV issues. I'm assuming further editing work has been done since the original votes some days ago. Flip^andFlopped ツ 00:30, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

• Article looks ok to me. Are there any remaining concerns? Schwede66 01:26, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

April 3

Portal:Current events/2025 April 3

April 3, 2025 (2025-04-3) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Gaza war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Rafah offensive The Israel Defense Forces retakes control of Rafah, prompting thousands of Palestinians to flee the city. (Reuters) At least 100 Palestinians are killed and 70 others are injured, including some critically, in airstrikes across the Gaza Strip. One of the strikes killed at least 27 people, including 8 men, 14 women, and 5 children, at a sheltering school in the north. (AP News) M23 campaign 2025 Walikale offensive M23 spokesperson Lawrence Kanyuka claims that the group's withdrawal from Walikale, North Kivu Province, Democratic Republic of the Congo, was to show goodwill for peace negotiations. (Critical Threats) Mexican drug war At least five CJNG gunmen are killed and 116 explosive devices seized after a combined operation that took place in Apatzingán. In the same day, in the municipality of Parácuaro, an encounter between delinquents, the SEDENA and the National Guard leaves one gunman killed. (La Jornada) (Contramuro) A dispute between two groups of miners over access to gold deposits in La Paz Department, Bolivia, escalates into clashes with six people reportedly killed and several others missing. (Reuters) Business and economy Tariffs in the second Trump administration A 25% tariff on all automotive imports into the United States enters force. No exemptions are announced despite requests from several major trade partners, including Japan and the United Kingdom. (Reuters) Multinational car manufacturer Stellantis announces it will lay off 900 workers across five of its U.S. factories and will pause production at assembly plants in Canada and Mexico in response to the tariffs. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents January 2025 Southern California wildfires The death toll from wildfires in Southern California, U.S., increases to 30. (CTV News) Mediterranean Sea migrant smuggling Two boats carrying migrants capsize in the early hours of the morning near Lesbos in the Aegean Sea, killing 16 people and leaving one more missing. More than 40 people are rescued by the Hellenic Coast Guard. (AP) Tornado outbreak of April 1–3, 2025 At least seven people are killed and thirteen others are injured by overnight severe weather including tornadoes, storms, hail and floods across Tennessee, Missouri, and Indiana in the United States. (NBC News) International relations Hungary–Israel relations Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu lands in Budapest, Hungary, a signatory of the International Criminal Court (ICC), for a state visit in defiance of the international arrest warrant against him for alleged war crimes. (The Jerusalem Post) (AP) The Hungarian government announces it will withdraw from the ICC. (Reuters) China arrests three Filipinos suspected of espionage near Chinese military facilities as part of a network recruited by Philippine intelligence to gather sensitive information. The Philippines say the arrests are related to previous arrests of Chinese nationals for similar offences. (AFP via CNA) (Reuters) Law and crime 2025 Turkish protests Turkish National Police detain eleven people for spreading calls for and participating in shopping boycotts in the country as a protest against the arrest of Istanbul mayor and opposition presidential candidate Ekrem İmamoğlu. (DW) Canada convoy protests The Ontario Court of Justice in Ontario, Canada, convicts Tamara Lich and Chris Barber, two leaders of the truck driver protest movement against COVID-19 vaccination in Canada, of criminal mischief. (AP) Mass shootings in the United States Three people, including the perpetrator, are killed and two others are injured in a mass shooting when a 29-year-old man shoots his mother and at passing cars in Sabattus, Maine, United States. (ABC News) Seven people, including the perpetrator, are injured in a mass stabbing near Gallaudet University in Washington, D.C., United States. A suspect was arrested. (The Independent) A 50-year-old man sets himself on fire inside of his car in a failed car bombing near the National Monument on Dam Square in Amsterdam, Netherlands, causing a small explosion and injuring himself. No bystanders were injured. (NDTV)

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RD: Theodore McCarrick

Article: Theodore McCarrick (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP News
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:58E9:FF0C:A4DB:5A2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American former Roman Catholic cardinal who accused of sexual abuse. 240F:7A:6253:1:58E9:FF0C:A4DB:5A2 (talk) 03:59, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Support Long and well sourced article, definitely meets quality standards V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 11:41, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Good length and well sourced. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 13:49, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support per above supporters. Nearly 200 refs and no tags. Jusdafax (talk) 09:35, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Date and place of birth are both unreferenced. Schwede66 01:49, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Schwede66, although it is not footnoted in the article's lead, the date and place of both are included in the very first footnote, which links to the archived biography from the Archdiocese of Washington website: 1. Flip^andFlopped ツ 00:10, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

But you can’t and should not expect a reviewer or reader of the article to trawl through the references to see whether the verification is somewhere. Schwede66 00:32, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) Impeachment of Yoon Suk Yeol

Article: Impeachment of Yoon Suk Yeol (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ South Korea's Constitutional Court removes Yoon Suk Yeol (pictured) as the President of South Korea. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ South Korea's Constitutional Court removes Yoon Suk Yeol (pictured) as the President of South Korea, following his declaration of martial law.
Alternative blurb II: ​ South Korea's Constitutional Court removes Yoon Suk Yeol (pictured) as the President of South Korea, following his declaration of martial law. Han Duck-soo is named acting president.
News source(s): The Guardian, BBC, NYTimes, MBC live, Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Haers6120 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Dmartin969 (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: removal from office by the South Korea's Constitutional Court Haers6120 (talk) 02:24, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Support major development in South Korean politics, especially considering we did post the martial law declaration and this is arguably more impactful SparrowSparrow (talk) 02:33, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Verdict needs a bit of expansion and some clarification on the succession. That said, this is obvious ITN material and I support on expansion. Article quality is quite good. No issues with referencing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:37, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Support ALT1 There have been widespread coverage on his impeachment by the legislature (National Assembly (South Korea)) and the Constitutional Court by Korean and international media. ALT1 gives context as why he was impeached. Ca ^{talk to me!} 02:44, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

I oppose ALT2 since Han Duck-soo was already the acting president before the ruling. Ca ^{talk to me!} 03:56, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support This a major event in this country. Fixer88 (talk) 02:47, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support per above. Change of head of state. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:52, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support This is a major development of the South Korean politics. Moraljaya67 (talk) 03:04, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Culmination of everything over the last few months, and the most important domino to fall thus far. The Kip ^(contribs) 03:06, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
• Updated with an additional altblurb linking to the acting president. –DMartin 03:17, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

  Han Duck-soo was already the acting president before the ruling, since Yoon was suspended by the National Assembly. Ca ^{talk to me!} 03:31, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

• Strong Support Change in head of state. –DMartin 03:17, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
• Strong support per nom and prior comments. AsaQuathern (talk) 03:32, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support and post immediately per all above. Tofusaurus (talk) 03:37, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support per nom. ATL1 is my preference.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 03:59, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Alt1. I only just added the picture to image protection queue so I can't yet replace it. Masem (t) 04:20, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Now protected, image swapped. Masem (t) 04:23, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Andreas, Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

Article: Andreas, Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Andreas, Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, dies at 82, in Coburg, Germany (Post)
News source(s): Fränkischer Tag, BR
Credits:

• Nominated by Mr. Lechkar (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Mr. Lechkar (talk) 23:13, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Not Ready for the usual reason. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:28, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Support but Oppose on notability Head of major european royal house died, if he was the ruling monarch of a nation, this would definitely have its onw page on this, I oppose this based on notability and the fact that few news sources are reporting on this. Shaneapickle (talk) 13:06, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Recent deaths are automatically notable, comments should focus on quality alone.

My vote is oppose on quality Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 15:00, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

This isn't a blurb nomination. Blurbs have a blue or cyan template with a written blurb - i.e. "Andreas, Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, dies at age YY". Recent deaths appear as beige boxes, and they just need to have articles that are well-sourced and long enough and appear below the main ITN blurbs, and don't have blurbs of their own. Departure– (talk) 15:03, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Mick O'Dwyer

Article: Mick O'Dwyer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Irish Times, The Irish TimesRTÉ, Irish Examiner, Irish Examiner, BBC, Irish Independent
Credits:

• Nominated by Lf8u2 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Lf8u2 (talk) 06:58, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

April 2

Portal:Current events/2025 April 2

April 2, 2025 (2025-04-2) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War Russian invasion of Ukraine Kharkiv strikes Russian forces target Kharkiv with at least 13 Geran-2 drones, causing fires in industrial and residential areas and injuring eight people, including a child. (Ukrainska Pravda) Kryvyi Rih strikes A Russian missile strike on an industrial park in Kryvyi Rih, Ukraine, kills at least four people and injures 14 others. (Reuters) Sudanese civil war Siege of El Fasher At least two civilians are killed in the artillery shelling of a displacement camp in El Fasher, North Darfur, Sudan, by the Rapid Support Forces. (AP) Middle Eastern crisis Israeli invasion of Syria The Israeli Air Force launches airstrikes in Syria targeting the remaining "military infrastructure", destroying much of Hama Air Base and Tiyas Air Base, including all remaining hangars and radars. The Barzah scientific research centre is also reportedly bombed. (The Times of Israel) Gaza war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu announces the country's military will seize large areas of land in the Gaza Strip and establish a new occupation zone called the Morag Corridor, potentially stretching from Rafah to Khan Younis. (AP) Iran–United States relations The United States Air Force deploys 6 nuclear-capable B-2 stealth bombers to Diego Garcia, amid rising tensions with Iran over their nuclear program. (AP) Myanmar civil war The Myanmar government declares a temporary ceasefire with the National Unity Government-in-exile and its various allied ethnic armed organizations to facilitate relief efforts following the MW 7.7 earthquake in the country several days ago. The ceasefire is expected to last until April 22. (DW) M23 campaign (2022–present) 2025 Walikale offensive Wazalendo militias break through March 23 Movement (M23) positions in Kampala, DRC and launch an attack on the M23 rebels in Walikale. (Critical Threats) Mexican drug war An elder peasant was killed after the blasts of a landmine when was riding his motorcycle in a rural road in the community of Puerta de Alambre, Apatzingán municipality, Michoacán.(Revista Proceso) Arts and culture Archaeologists with the Vienna Museum announce the discovery of a mass grave in Simmering district in Vienna, Austria, of around 150 Ancient Roman soldiers from the 1st century who likely died in a battle. (DW) (Caledonian Record) Business and economy Tariffs in the second Trump administration China–United States trade war, 2025 United States trade war with Canada and Mexico Donald Trump's Liberation Day speech U.S. president Donald Trump announces a universal 10% tariff on most imports into the United States, a 20% tariff on goods from the European Union, and a 34% tariff on all imports from China. The tariffs will take effect from April 5. Exceptions include Canada, Cuba, Mexico, North Korea, and Russia. Canada and Mexico had tariffs placed on them in February, while Cuba, North Korea, and Russia are under U.S. sanctions. (BBC News) (France 24) (India Today) In the 10% tariff, the U.S. lists the Australian territory of Heard Island and McDonald Islands near Antarctica, despite the fact that it has no human inhabitants, imports or exports. In response to finding these islands in the list, Australian prime minister Anthony Albanese commented that "Nowhere on earth is safe" for the tariff. (The Guardian) The United States Senate votes 51–48 on a non-binding resolution to rebuke and reverse tariffs on Canada, with Republicans Rand Paul, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and Mitch McConnell voting for the resolution. (NPR) Disasters and accidents Tornado outbreak of April 1–3, 2025 The Storm Prediction Center in the United States issues a high risk convective outlook over parts of the Mississippi River valley, ahead of an expected tornado outbreak. (Storm Prediction Center) (Nine News) Tropical cyclone naming The World Meteorological Organization retires Beryl, Helene, Milton, and John from their rotating list of names for hurricanes for the North Atlantic and East Pacific basins.(WMO) Five people are killed and at least one other is critically injured when a private Maharashtra State Road Transport Corporation bus collides head-on with two vehicles on the Khamgaon-Shegaon highway in Buldhana, Maharashtra, India. (News18 India) A Russian Air Force Tupolev Tu-22M strategic bomber crashes due to a technical malfunction in Irkutsk Oblast, Russia, killing one crew member and injuring three others. (Reuters) Health and environment The Slovak government approves a plan to cull 350 brown bears after a man was found mauled by a bear on March 30. The government had previously culled 144 bears in 2024. (AP) The Polish government increases border controls with Slovakia in response to the outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease among Slovakia's and Hungary's livestock. (TVN24) Law and crime War on drugs in Ecuador A court in New York City indicts José Adolfo Macías Villamar, the leader of the organized crime syndicate Los Choneros, on seven counts of drug trafficking, conspiracy, arms trafficking, and illegal drug distribution in the United States. Villamar is not currently in U.S. custody. (AP) Sports 2025 CFL season TSN president Stewart Johnston is announced as the 15th commissioner of the Canadian Football League, replacing Randy Ambrosie who had served in the role since 2017. (CBC)

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(Posted) Trump Tariffs

Article: Tariffs in the second Trump administration (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ US President Donald Trump imposes sweeping trade tariffs on most countries. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ US President Donald Trump declares a national emergency to announce tariffs on all imports.
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Ad Orientem (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Obviously the main story globally for the last several days and probably for the next few. Ad Orientem (talk) 21:05, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

2025-April-02-Reciprocal tariffs (left half)

Trump showing a chart with reciprocal tariffs (shame about the teleprompter)

• Support per nom. AsaQuathern (talk) 21:11, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Wait until we see what the international response is. We only posted the ones against Canada and Mexico because they instituted their own tariffs in response. If no one else does anything, will this can have international reach it becomes really only a US problem. But if we see trade wars start with other nations, then that makes this very significant. Masem (t) 21:15, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

  It's not if, but rather when and how bad will it be. The EU is already preparing retaliatory measures.[6] -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:20, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

  Which why it is better to wait until those are actually announced and not just planned. The story is the international trade war started by these, but we should make sure that trade war actually materializes Masem (t) 21:24, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Wait per Masem and WP:NTRUMP. We need to wait and see if the retaliatory tarrifs have a noticeable enough impact to warrant notability. Kaito-san (talk/contribs) 21:46, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support This is basically tariffs on every country in the world from the richest country in the world. Beyond notable, regardless of impact. Personisinsterest (talk) 21:59, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support Tariffs will continue until morale improves, apparently. Article looks comprehensive and economic implications are massive. Bremps... 22:09, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support, although I can't help but wonder if an article for these "Liberation Day" tariffs might not be warranted. I suppose that'll have to come as the impacts make themselves more apparent. BSMRD (talk) 22:45, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

It's probably why we should wait to see what international actions are done because more likely a 2025 international trade war would be the best target Masem (t) 23:00, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Strong support, this is a massive world event, and I'd even support a separate article about just these tariffs. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 23:02, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose The list of reciprocal tariff rates is cited to a tweet. Such social media from the Trump administration and policy in general is not reliable because of their history of flip-flops and make-it-up-as-you-go. Most countries often tinker with their taxes and so there's lots of news in the UK about its government's fiscal policy. The devil is in the details with this stuff and that will take time to work through and settle down, which may not happen any time soon. We shouldn't just report the Trump speech as given per WP:SOAP. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:08, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment on media: I've had a look what's available online and found a couple of media files that could possibly illustrate this story (if we don't want to use Trump's official portrait). See what you think. Schwede66 23:28, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

  As long as we don't directly rely on White House sources. Bremps... 00:45, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose: Just another unremarkable thing done by Trump (adjust tariffs) that is treated as a big deal only because it's Trump. If John Doe, president of Foo, did a similar thing nobody would conder this worth of ITN Cambalachero (talk) 23:36, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

  In all due respect, that's not correct at all. Look at Foreign policy of the Joe Biden administration, Presidency of Joe Biden, Presidency of Barack Obama and Foreign policy of the Barack Obama administration as a comparison. The word "tariff" only occurs in the Biden admin in regards to Chinese tariffs, and the word doesn't even occur once in the Obama articles. This is Trump making sweeping tariffs against many of America's trade partners out of nowhere plus a general 10% additional tariff. This will have a huge impact economically on America and the broader world. Harizotoh9 (talk) 23:49, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

  This may be new for the US, but it's common in the international stage. Cambalachero (talk) 03:39, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  No, this is almost unheard of and I would gladly support if up next, Zimbabwe or Bhutan does the same kind of thing, regardless of how "not relevant" the country is in the global world stage. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 14:24, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  He is not your neighbourhood crazy uncle, but he is the President of the United States. Your neighbour wouldnt affect your employment or egg price in Walmart, but Trump can, and is passionate about doing so in the wrong way. His power enables him to actually implement his crazy ideas, which would affect everyone on this planet. In this case, in the worse scenario possible HolyCrocsEmperor (talk) 02:31, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  Saying that these tariffs are unremarkable is frankly ridiculous, as a Canadian I've seen how people went from loving America to absolutely blood-boiling hatred towards Americans over the tariffs and Trump's actions these are VERY remarkable and I would argue the most remarkable of both presidencies and maybe even the most remarkable when his time in office is over (maybe not seeing how things are going). Even conservatives who would usually agree with the Republican Party just cannot agree with them over the tariffs and President Trump's other actions the tariffs are possibly the one thing if they come into effect that will ruin Canada-USA's 100+ year long alliance and brotherhood.

  Plus even in a different perspective like the ones above you can clearly see that it is very remarkable. Even Trump himself would most likely admit it is one of the most remarkable things of his presidency.

  Roc1233 (Talk | Edits) 01:12, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

• Wait until the tariffs become live. This is undoubtedly major news and will affect the global economy if implemented for even less than a week, but we have to see them be live first. PrimalMustelid (talk) 23:57, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Even if Trump repeals them five minutes from now, it's going to have a major impact on the world economy. Financial markets are already down substantially. --Carnildo (talk) 04:26, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support This is a major escalation, and distinct from the trade war with Mexico and Canada. It could have serious impacts on the entire global economy and is much larger in scale, if implemented. Flip^andFlopped ツ 00:48, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support: This is the biggest news today in the world, literally because every country is affected. Universally 10% is too crazy that it looks plain, but millions if not billions of jobs would be at stake. HolyCrocsEmperor (talk) 02:27, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Support/Wait Due to the scale of these tariffs. This affects nearly every important country on the world stage. However, we should probably wait a day or two to see the international response as Masem and PrimalMustelid suggested. Hungry403 (talk) 02:33, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Lots of people were watching this, and it's not just politics since business decisions are also affected. In fact I remember reading that for many CEOs, April 2 (aka "Liberation Day") couldn't come quickly enough. Unless the tariffs are walked back on soon, this will affect billions upon billions of goods and services; I don't see why that would not be worth posting. Banedon (talk) 02:39, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support One of the biggest economies in the world making sweeping tariffs, which will have huge impact on the global economy. Harizotoh9 (talk) 03:08, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Will have enormous global ramifications, very clearly meets the ITN threshold. Mlb96 (talk) 04:09, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support: This will absolutely impact the global economy, and poses a significant issue. Support a different blurb than the current suggested blurb as it feels too general. Tofusaurus (talk) 05:19, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

 Posted. El_C 05:51, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Push back Not seeing a consensus for this but so it goes. What I do see is that there's already pushback for this in the Senate. You see, the President doesn't have complete freedom to do as he pleases with tariffs. Trump is abusing the International Emergency Economic Powers Act which is supposed to be for "unusual and extraordinary" cases, not a global policy affecting all trade. If there's an economic emergency, it will be of Trump's making! Anyway, the point is that this is an ongoing situation in which pushback is happening both domestically and internationally. The blurb presents it as a done deal when it's just the start. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:50, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  The Senate bill is not expected to pass the house according to analysts but we'll have to wait and see. Yes, Congress could close the loopholes that Trump is using, but they haven't yet. Harizotoh9 (talk) 07:22, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  Well, obviously I judged there being consensus (at the very least a WP:ROUGHCONSENSUS), so I will not be doing that. El_C 07:28, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  At the time of posting there were 12 supports, 2 opposes, and 3 waits. Of course it's not a vote and strength of argument counts, but there was clearly a consensus in favour of posting. I do think it would have been better to wait a few hours, so editors in Europe had a chance to comment (this all happened overnight for them). Modest Genius ^talk 11:13, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  What needs work now is the blurb so that it doesn't normalize the idea that Trump controls tariffs by diktat. The blurb currently doesn't explain that Trump has declared a national emergency in the US, as his pretext for this. To make this clearer, the blurb would be

US President Donald Trump declares a national emergency to announce tariffs on all imports.

Andrew🐉(talk) 08:52, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Getting into how Trump introduced tariffs when it is not normally within his power is getting into the weeds for the main page of a global encyclopedia (But obviously should be covered at the article). What the blurb is lacking is the impact. Its why we should wait to verify what other nations are likely to do, with the expectation it will start a trade war and potentially a recession/depression at a large scale (if not just in the US). Even seeing how bad the markets dive from this (based on overnight trading) would be something. Right now the blurb gives zero suggestions of its importance and only if you have been following the news do you know what that means. We shouldn't assume that for the readers. Masem (t) 12:09, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Post-posting support. While there are some reasonable arguments above, this is undoubtedly headline news around the world. Deliberately causing economic damage to trading partners is a big deal. We can't post every tariff that Trump imposes, but collectively these are a large package that affects most of the world economy. It's good to keep the blurb simple too, without attempting to explain his stated reasons (or why they're bogus). Modest Genius ^talk 11:13, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting comment, should we consider mentioning the fact that stock markets across the world are plunging in response? User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 12:12, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting support. Whilst it's tempting to say "oh, it's just another on the list of stupid ideas that Trump thinks are cool", this one is genuinely worldwide front page news, for obvious reasons. And no, we shouldn't try to kick it into the long grass by saying "Wait for responses", the story is this, happening now. Black Kite (talk) 14:49, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting support. Whether from Trump or someone else, helping crash the global economy in that way is definitely notable. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:24, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Pinging @Ad Orientem and @AsaQuathern, the promoter and nom, respectively. Thoughts on noting the stock drops that have resulted? JayCubby 20:48, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Not really wild about the idea. The tariffs are the story. Markets rise and fall, sometimes dramatically for a lot of reasons. If this turns into a 2008-09 type financial crisis, where we had a months long cascading stock market crash, I might support putting that into ongoing. But I'm not comfortable going there right now. If the market rebounds dramatically in the coming days (not likely IMO), then we are going to look like we were trying to be alarmist or allowing political bias to influence ITN. I think the blurb is good for now. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:15, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Not sure tbh. AsaQuathern (talk) 01:45, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

• Post-posting support Yeah, so that's one way to destroy the global economy. Adding comment following clearly inevitable discussion to say I don't think the stock drops should be added to the blurb - if they truly crash, that can be its own thing. Kingsif (talk) 22:57, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Outcome Looking at how this played with the readership, we see that the nominated article was not the top read. The stock market wasn't either. Apart from other topical subjects like Val Kilmer, the most read relevant article was Heard Island and McDonald Islands which generated much amusement by appearing on the list despite having no population apart from penguins. This aspect is in the news and generating lots of coverage: Penguin memes, Nowhere on Earth is safe, Reuters, Sri Lanka Guardian, How everything works now ... Andrew🐉(talk) 10:01, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

  What's your point? It would hardly have been appropriate to single out that territory in the ITN blurb. Besides, the number of hits on an article is not one of the ITN criteria. Modest Genius ^talk 10:54, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

  One point is the best target article(s) for this topic as currently the target is just a section in a broader topic. The story continues to develop and now China has announced that it is reciprocating. Perhaps China–United States trade war will then be what our readers are looking for. We also have a more specific article called Liberation Day tariffs... Andrew🐉(talk) 14:35, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

  Laura Loomer is now the top Trump topic, while the stock market is the top economic news. It's interesting that readers are finding this despite the wordy title of List of largest daily changes in the Dow Jones Industrial Average. ITN's blurb is still ignoring this notable aspect and so it's obviously the search engines that are actually driving the traffic. Heard Island is still getting attention but another exotic island has just overtaken it for a different reason. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:52, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bill Cottrell

Article: Bill Cottrell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Detroit Free Press
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BeanieFan11 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death announced today. The NFL's first black center, and one of the first articles I'd written, back in 2020. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:49, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article is generally well cited and long enough, though some clarification regarding the death date would be quite helpful. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 22:07, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Looks solid. Marking as ready. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:30, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Disclosure: My edits to the page were limited to copyedits, not materially growing the content for posting.—Bagumba (talk) 12:14, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Khamtai Siphandone

Article: Khamtai Siphandone (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Laotian Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Jmanlucas (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit) and Mohamad Darilin (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former president of Laos. Jmanlucas (talk) 18:12, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support- Page looks good and the guy is worthy for ITN LuxembourgFan42 (talk) 21:49, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support Full enough article. Longest lived world leader ever. Doesn't meet Thatcher/Mandela criteria for ITN though. Bremps... 22:12, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Longest lived was Celâl Bayar. Curbon7 (talk) 09:54, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 00:39, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Chinese landing barges

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: PLA Navy landing barges (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ China starts testing invasion barges which extend bridges to form a pier. (Post)
News source(s): NYT, US Naval War College, CNN, Naval News
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by No Swan So Fine (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: These new barges are being tested on China's south coast currently and these seem more significant than the current exercises around Taiwan. The barges put down feet into the sea bed and then extend bridges to form a pier. These would enable fast roll-on/roll-off logistics for a naval invasion of places such as Taiwan. These seem as significant as the Mulberry harbours were for the D-Day invasion of Europe. Our article needs expansion but the US Naval War College paper has lots of good detail. What I've not found yet is a good free image but I'm just getting started after reading the electrifying article in the NYT. That's dated April 1st but this does not seem to be a joke. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:14, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose: Sorry, but I don't see landing barge tests as blurb-worthy. Plus, the article PLA Navy landing barges itself is only slightly more detailed than a stub. — MarkH₂₁^talk 07:47, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• It's early days yet. I've just edited the article to add more sources and detail. There are lots of naval buffs on Wikipedia and I expect that they will do more as the news breaks. Watch this space... Andrew🐉(talk) 08:08, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose and snow close - Weapons and equipment tests are not significant enough to warrant a blurb even when they strongly suggest impending invasion, and any suggestion that this will be used in any military operations is leaning into WP:CRYSTAL territory since it is not guaranteed that these things will be used as per my understanding, even though common sense says it is highly plausible. Tube·of·Light 08:53, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Interesting but not really of ITN significance (which itselfs derives from the crystalball of use in an invasion) as reflected by the blurb. Perhaps DYK. We did not post the minor Cross Strait crisis around an year ago, these developments are even less significant. Gotitbro (talk) 09:16, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. Militaries test new equipment all the time. If these landing craft are used in an actual invasion, then we can post. Merely trialling them isn't significant enough. DYK might be a possibility, but the article would require expansion to meet their requirements. Modest Genius ^talk 10:32, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - The beginning of tests of a technology is obviously not ITN material. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:47, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose not ITN material. Secretlondon (talk) 12:10, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. A military exercise is not ITN-worthy.

675930s (talk) 13:31, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Strong oppose and SNOW close until they start actually a-landin'. Departure– (talk) 13:33, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per all above, especially I agree with Tube·of·Light 's comment. Even if it used in a military operation, at that point I think the operation itself would be on ITN instead of the technology itself. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 13:35, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Huge Oppose; please SNOW it. It is not much of an event . Yet RΔ𝚉🌑R-𝕏 (talk) 14:56, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

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RD: Najmuddin Shaikh

Article: Najmuddin Shaikh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): DAWN
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Ainty Painty (talk) 03:37, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose, missing sources LuxembourgFan42 (talk) 21:50, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose It doesn't have a image and its past recent deaths by now.Roc1233 (Talk | Edits) 01:21, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

April 1

Portal:Current events/2025 April 1

April 1, 2025 (2025-04-1) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Middle Eastern crisis Gaza war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip UNICEF reports that over 332 children have been killed and 609 injured by the new Israeli military offensive across the Gaza Strip since the resumption of the war after the breakdown of the 2025 ceasefire. (BBC News) (UNICEF) Israel–Hezbollah conflict 2024 Israel–Lebanon ceasefire agreement Four people are killed, including Hassan Bdeir, a high-ranking Hezbollah official, and seven others are injured by an Israeli airstrike on a building in Dahieh, Beirut, Lebanon. (Reuters) (Al Jazeera) Red Sea crisis March 2025 United States attacks in Yemen The Houthis claim that they shot down a U.S. military-operated MQ-9 Reaper drone in Marib Governorate, Yemen. (AP) U.S. missile strikes on Hodeidah, Yemen, hit a water management facility, killing at least four people, according to the Houthi-run Al-Masirah network. (Al Jazeera) The U.S. announces it is sending a second aircraft carrier strike group, the USS Carl Vinson group, to the region. (Al Jazeera) Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine The Russian ministry of defence says that Russian forces have captured Rozlyv in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine. (Al Arabiya) Disasters and accidents 2023–2025 Sundhnúkur eruptions Seismic activity increases near Grindavík, Iceland, with the Icelandic Meteorological Office reporting that a volcanic eruption has occurred and a earthquake is being registered. People visiting the Blue Lagoon are evacuated rapidly. (The Watchers) 2025 Putra Heights pipeline fire At least 305 people are injured after a gas pipeline owned by Petronas explodes and ignites a fire in Putra Heights, Selangor, Malaysia. (Malay Mail) A small airplane crashes into a lake in Os near Bergen, Norway, killing the two people onboard. (Sunnmørsposten) International relations Cross-strait relations The Chinese PLA Navy and Air Force conduct large-scale military exercises around Taiwan. At least 19 Chinese warships are deployed, including the aircraft carrier Shandong, marking its closest ever approach to the island. (The Guardian) (Financial Times) Politics and elections Cory Booker's marathon speech U.S. Senator Cory Booker delivers the longest speech in United States Senate history, breaking the previous record set by Strom Thurmond in 1957. (AP News) Science and technology Private spaceflight SpaceX successfully launches four humans into orbit over Earth’s poles for the first time for the human spaceflight mission Fram2. The journey will last three to five days. (The New York Times)

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RD: John Thornton (venture capitalist)

Article: John Thornton (venture capitalist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death reported 1 April. Thriley (talk) 19:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Strong oppose having this stub on RD. The article currently doesn't focus on why he's notable beyond the passing mention of founding The Texas Tribune. Departure– (talk) 19:48, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• We don't post stubs. Schwede66 01:47, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Strong oppose Its a stub and it doesn't have an image.Roc1233 (Talk | Edits) 01:19, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Michael Hurley

Article: Michael Hurley (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Pitchfork [7], The Guardian [8], Rolling Stone [9]
Credits:

• Nominated by Golan1911 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Geraldo Perez (talk · give credit), Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit), AMCKen (talk · give credit), Farolif (talk · give credit) and Kelisi (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American Folk musician with career spanning over 60 years, described by Pitchfork as the Godfather of freak-folk. Known for many albums, including 1975's Have Moicy! --Golan1911 (talk) 17:13, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

• Much of the prose are short, footnote-free paragraphs. The Discography is a long string of unsourced bullet-points. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 13:45, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Johnny Tillotson

Article: Johnny Tillotson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): People
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:C807:43E1:28B4:4DD (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TomVenam2021 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American country singer-songwriter. 240F:7A:6253:1:C807:43E1:28B4:4DD (talk) 01:47, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment The tables at the end of the article are only partially cited. Flip^andFlopped ツ 06:50, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mark Laforest

Article: Mark Laforest (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Toronto Sun, TSN, American Hockey League
Credits:

• Nominated by The Kip (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Connormah (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Canadian ice hockey goaltender. Article doesn't have any CN tags, nor any other glaring issues at first glance. The Kip ^(contribs) 21:01, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Comment Career stats need to be cited. Bremps... 00:55, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

@Bremps common practice in WP:NHL is to source stats from the “Biographical information and career statistics from…” sources listed under “External links” (ex. Eliteprospects, HockeyDB, NHL.com, etc), without a direct link in the table. The Kip ^(contribs) 01:48, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Seems ok, the sourcing of the table is clear enough to me. Flip^andFlopped ツ 06:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 09:14, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: George Freeman (guitarist)

Article: George Freeman (guitarist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chicago Tribune
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:5B2:5A14:8151:B74 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kelisi (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American jazz guitarist. 240F:7A:6253:1:5B2:5A14:8151:B74 (talk) 07:03, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Comment If the discography serves as its own citation, then count this as a support vote. Article in GA quality. Bremps... 00:59, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Support per Bremps above. Yakikaki (talk) 20:31, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Unreferenced date of birth. Schwede66 01:45, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Val Kilmer

Article: Val Kilmer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 03:57, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Damn, had hoped this was April Fools but sadly not. Article currently has citation issues though, including most of the filmography. The Kip ^(contribs) 04:29, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose Really sad. Enjoyed his performances. The article has citing issues, and his death category could use some more. AndrewGarfieldIsTheBestSpiderMan (talk) 04:39, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support as soon as the article polishing is ready. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:28, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment - lots and lots of cites needed unfortunately, and filmography almost entirely uncited. Also, pre-emptively, if anyone thinks of proposing a blurb for this, I'll be opposed to that one. Doesn't meet the stature required for that IMHO.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:38, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Famous actor. Scheridon (talk) 13:54, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support: our man here was popular enough to be remembered. But article needs hefty work to be nominated. RΔ𝚉🌑R-𝕏 (talk) 14:54, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose Still a lot of citation needed tags, and a few uncited and untagged paragraphs in the Career section. Departure– (talk) 14:56, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

I'll say that I strongly oppose a blurb - the article does NOT tell me why they were notable beyond saying they were in big movies. Departure– (talk) 17:12, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support one of the big box-office draws in the later half of the 1980s and early 1990s though article needs work.

SpacedFarmer (talk) 15:34, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• It needs to be pointed out again that for RDs the only thing that matters is quality, and those votes above just saying support due to him being famous are unhelpful. Masem (t) 15:39, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb main page news on BBC and CNN. Fdfexoex (talk) 15:54, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support It's Val Kilmer, not much more to think through here. If whoever Betty Webb was can go up, he can too. Tidy up the article for sure, but the minute that's done, play ball. Xanblu (talk) 17:03, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

For the love of god, Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. The Kip ^(contribs) 17:54, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Please do not WP:BITE. BangJan1999 18:47, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Still a number of {{cn}} tags, and the filmography is still completely unsourced. Black Kite (talk) 18:10, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Photo distinction maybe? BilboBeggins (talk) 23:05, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Sadly oppose article as it stands now. Big orange tag at top. Scuba 13:36, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

I realize there is a "big orange tag" on the article, but I don't understand why it is there. Kilmer's article has 112 citations. This sadly is the norm at now for recent deaths, where editors are demanding more sources than required by Wikipedia policies, and prevents longer articles like this from getting to the main page while allowing stubby articles to make it on much easier. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 14:20, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

I removed the big orange tag at the top. It seems to apply only to the filmography section (which already has a tag). I added a bunch of references based on Associated Press' article but I don't have time to sift through every single film and TV show (especially the smaller productions) to find all references. I support RD but reserve my judgement on blurb. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 16:27, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, most if not all of the roles in the filmography section are already sourced in the article. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 16:45, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Legendary actor, article looks ready for posting now. Urbanracer34 (talk) 14:39, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Agree of course that he is a huge loss, but sadly there are still many CN tags within the body of the article and the filmography section remains unsourced. Flip^andFlopped ツ 14:01, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
• Admin comment The article is orange-tagged and that's a showstopper. Schwede66 01:43, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Betty Webb

Article: Betty Webb (code breaker) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Martinevans123 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Elderly UK Bletchey Park code-breaker Martinevans123 (talk) 13:43, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article has no glaring CN issues and is good enough for ITN. Flip^andFlopped ツ 18:51, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Support: no issues and is worthy for being under RD LuxembourgFan42 (talk) 22:33, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 07:44, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Gas Pipeline Explosion in Malaysia

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Article: 2025 Putra Heights pipeline fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A natural gas pipeline explodes (pictured) in Putra Heights, Selangor, Malaysia, injuring 305 people and causing the destruction of at least 190 houses and 159 vehicles (Post)
News source(s): The Star
Credits:

• Nominated by Scuffedsherm (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

 sherm (talk) 11:58, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Not Ready References are badly messed up, only 2 citations in the lead paragraph. This needs alot of fixing. Shaneapickle (talk) 12:51, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose Though the incident had garnered some worldwide attention, I don't think it is notable enough for it to be in ITN. Furthermore the article content need to be reworked Syn73 (talk) 13:05, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose background section has no sources. Besides that, with no deaths and seemingly not-wildly-extensive property damage, I don't really think this rises to the level of ITN. The Kip ^(contribs) 14:27, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose. Not enough sources and with no deaths or massive damage. It isn't worthy of ITN LuxembourgFan42 (talk) 22:32, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - I'm grateful no-one was killed, but that also means this is a relatively commonplace industrial accident. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:49, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

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(Closed) China imposes temporary blockade on Taiwan

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Article: Cross-strait relations (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ China imposes temporary blockade on Taiwan (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

 Count Iblis (talk) 07:34, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose doesn't look like there's been any real blockade. Banedon (talk) 07:36, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose It's a military exercise, not a blockade. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:14, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. Not a blockade, which is an act of war and if it actually were a blockade US forces would already be on the way per treaty. 331dot (talk) 09:28, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose run of the mill military exercise. Scuba 10:15, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Strong oppose until bombs start falling on Taipei, per all above. Departure– (talk) 12:54, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. These are military exercises in international waters. They're certainly provocative, and China is doing a lot of sabre-rattling today, but it's far from the act of war implied by the nomination. Also, there is zero update in the linked article, and that's too broad a topic anyway - I would expect a stand-alone article to be written before nomination for ITN. Modest Genius ^talk 13:09, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
• Close or preferably, Withdraw If something changes significantly, feel free to nominate again once the target article has been updated. Jehochman ^Talk 13:15, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose and SNOW close So what, average day in the Taiwan strait. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:55, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

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(Closed) NBA fight

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Article: Minnesota Target (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A violent altercation broke out during an NBA game on March 31, 2025 between the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Detroit Pistons at Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota. The incident, which drew comparisons to the 2004 Malice at the Palace, resulted in the ejection of 6 players and 2 coaches. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A fight between multiple coaches and players from the Minnesota Timberwolves and Detroit Pistons resulted in Donte DiVincenzo (guard), Naz Reid (center), Timberwolves assistant coach Pablo Prigioni, Ron Holland (basketball) (forward), Isaiah Stewart (center), Marcus Sasser (guard), and Pistons head coach J.B. Bickerstaff. being ejected.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Detroit Pistons: Ron Holland (basketball) (forward), Isaiah Stewart (center), Marcus Sasser (guard), and head coach J.B. Bickerstaff. And, sparked debates on player conduct and security measures in the National Basketball Association.
News source(s):
Credits:

• Nominated by CostalCal (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: A fight between multiple different players and head coaches in the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Detroit Pistons in the National Basketball Association is going viral through the media. And, is drawing comparisons to the 2004 Malice at the Palace incident. CostalCal (talk) 02:54, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose, fights always happen at sporting events. 675930s (talk) 03:04, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose minor story. Already out of the sports news cycle. Natg 19 (talk) 03:26, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

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