Talk:Stanley Plotkin

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Quote " In 1964 and 1965, rubella exploded. There were 12.5 million infections here, which gave rise to 20,000 cases of the congenital syndrome, about 6,200 stillbirths, and at least 5,000 abortions -- some legal and some not. The epidemic also gave a great push to Stanley Plotkin, a research physician at the Wistar Institute in Philadelphia, who had begun working on a rubella vaccine in 1963.

Plotkin subjected a strain of rubella virus to repeated rounds of growth in harsh conditions in tissue culture. This caused genetic changes that rendered the microbe too weak to cause illness yet still capable of stimulating immunity.

His final product proved unusually effective and safe. A single dose confers life-long immunity in nearly all people. Among the thousands of women who turned out to be pregnant when they got the vaccine over the years, none has ever had a baby with congenital rubella.

Now 72 and an adviser to the pharmaceutical firm Sanofi Pasteur, Plotkin recalled last week that opponents of abortion briefly questioned whether it was ethical to use the vaccine, because it was developed with virus isolated from an infected fetus that had been legally aborted in Pennsylvania in 1965. Roman Catholic authorities, however, pronounced it acceptable. " [1]

Just inducted to the Institute of Medicine. 2005

The Washington Post article does not speak for the Catholic Church in the USA. The March 20, 2005 article cited is in grave error. The following is the position of the Catholic Church published on their web site.

Quote " Because the Church opposes deliberately destroying innocent human life at any stage, for research or any other purpose, it opposes embryonic stem cell research as currently conducted. However, when scientists proposed avenues for possibly obtaining embryonic stem cells or their pluripotent equivalent without creating or harming embryos, Catholic leaders were among the first to welcome this idea: www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1435477/posts.

The Catholic Church has long supported research using stem cells from adult tissue and umbilical cord blood, which poses no moral problem. Catholic institutions at times have taken the lead in promoting such constructive research, which is already providing cures and treatments for suffering patients." [2]

What Plotkin did was not approved by the Roman Catholic Church. Seems to me to be dishonest and noteworthy that people here above so desperately need moral affirmation for the destruction of human life. So desperate that the will quote anyone who will say anything. Even Plotkin betrayed discomfort when discussing his use of fetal tissue. He literally was wringing his hands when he was testifying under oath. Your moral bandage just fell off the the moral wound. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.20.255.32 (talk) 12:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Background Data?

Any info on when and/or where he was born? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.149.96 (talk) 06:02, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite

Hello, WP! I'm going to be working on a rewrite of this page over the next several weeks. If you happen to have any new sources or multimedia related to the subject, please feel free to point it out to me below. Thanks! Syko1096 (talk) 21:18, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I completed the rewrite of this article. Enjoy! Syko1096 (talk) 21:01, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate controversy section

I'm removing the Controversy section because it is WP:Original research relying on primary documents (namely, a court deposition, which is presumably unacceptable per WP:BLPPRIMARY). I cannot find any secondary sourcing indicating this is a controversy that has actually played out in the public sphere. I'm also removing any other citations to the deposition elsewhere. Pinging @Oldgreg100 who added the materials. WhinyTheYounger ※ Talk 15:52, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also disclosing for COI purposes that I have a loose professional association with Plotkin; we're on a nonprofit board together but no other relationship beyond that. He and I haven't talked about his Wikipedia article nor do we communicate outside the context of board meetings. WhinyTheYounger ※ Talk 15:58, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLPPRIMARY Does not say it’s unacceptable, it says the misuse of it is unacceptable and to me it seems the main issue here is a disclosure of private/personal information about the person in question. This is not an issue here. I don’t see how citing his voluntary deposition is a misuse of a primary source. Oldgreg100 (talk) 16:46, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You cited it specifically to imply things not verified in secondary sources about Plotkin and his integrity/mistakes/whatever. That is original research. And to quote BLPRIMARY directly, Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. If there are other sources that touch on this supposed DPT/DTP issue (whether drawing on the court documents or not), that's totally fair game. WhinyTheYounger ※ Talk 17:40, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]